The Journey from Special Forces into a Fulfilling Civilian Life with Tommy Stoner

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[casey_]: hey there and welcome to today's episode
of cash flow pro or daily real estate

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[casey_]: investing podcast and youtube channel i'm here
today with tommy stoner special operators transition foundation

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[casey_]: that's a mouthful tommy how are you
today sir

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[tommy_stoner]: great case how re you doing this
morning

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[casey_]: oh man i'll tell you i coach
my stepson's baseball team and so last night

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[casey_]: i was hitting the kids ground balls
with a bat like this right i'm doing

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[casey_]: exactly what i coached them not to
and that's chop at the

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[tommy_stoner]: oh

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[casey_]: ball but i was chopping at the
ball trying to

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[tommy_stoner]: yeah

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[casey_]: hit it to the picture so the
picture could move and make the play right

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[casey_]: well in a full on swing to
chop the ball down i came through missed

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[casey_]: the ball and hit myself right on
the knee and so i'm currently it's worse

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[casey_]: than a man cold right now around
here oh

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[tommy_stoner]: when you started that story of feeling
that's where it was going

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[casey_]: yeah

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[tommy_stoner]: yeah

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[casey_]: and and so and and then and
then i'm like all right so you're not

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[casey_]: like young and you can be old
and dumb but old and dumb hurts old

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[casey_]: and dumb hurts longer right young and
dumb least you heal quick but anyway i

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[casey_]: don't know man so here we are
now we're ready to shoot podcast just if

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[casey_]: anybody has an extra knee they could
mail my way just say i'll give you

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[casey_]: my address at the end of the
show so go ahead tommy tell us a

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[casey_]: little bit about what you all do
and let's get a little bit of history

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[casey_]: about you and who you are and
then and then well kind of go from

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[casey_]: there

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[tommy_stoner]: yea let me tell you a little
bit about the organization i'll tell you how

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[tommy_stoner]: i became affiliated with it and how
i got in the roll that i'm currently

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[tommy_stoner]: in right now but the special operators
transition foundation where five one c three on

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[tommy_stoner]: profit that help special operations veterans the
operators so think army special forces green brays

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[tommy_stoner]: navy seals marine corps raiders the one
six special operation in the aviation regiment the

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[tommy_stoner]: air for special operations both the air
crews and their ground teams from the combat

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[tommy_stoner]: control teams out there special tactic squadrons
and even the intelligence side the house central

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[tommy_stoner]: intelligence age defense intelligence age their case
officers were un a transition program to help

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[tommy_stoner]: them transition out of their military or
service to government to their new future career

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[tommy_stoner]: so how do they pivot from what
they are doing to something they can be

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[tommy_stoner]: passionate about and purposeful and and kind
of meets their needs

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[casey_]: m

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[tommy_stoner]: overall so um we've been doing this
program we became incorporated in two thousand thirteen

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[tommy_stoner]: and two thou fourteen is when we
really started the first folks coming through the

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[tommy_stoner]: program and we we started out with
four that first year and then the second

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[tommy_stoner]: year we're up to seven and then
fifteen and it's continued to basically double until

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[tommy_stoner]: about a year and a half ago
and then it rippled and you know it's

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[tommy_stoner]: kind of hit that expenential growth curve
as people see the value of using transition

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[tommy_stoner]: programs like ours so we work with
them twelve d teen months before they leave

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[tommy_stoner]: service

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[casey_]: m

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[tommy_stoner]: this is before they get out we
start the process of preparing them and we

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[tommy_stoner]: put them through a process of executive
coaching to really help them understand themselves and

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[tommy_stoner]: maybe look at themselves in a very
different way because at times they wear a

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[tommy_stoner]: uniform and there's kind of hey i'm
a navy seal or special forces guy here's

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[tommy_stoner]: kind of here's who i am and
and you know if you've been in the

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[tommy_stoner]: military you know everybody is different but
there's kind of this professional paradyme that you

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[tommy_stoner]: represent so we help kind of pill
that away a little bit and get to

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[tommy_stoner]: the core of who they are what
motivates them you know what their skills and

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[tommy_stoner]: astute and experience are in this sort
of process helping them to translate that into

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[tommy_stoner]: here's my value proposition to a pencil
hiring partner out there um and then we

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[tommy_stoner]: use our pretty expansive network of contacts
to start to introduce them to different business

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[tommy_stoner]: leaders in different areas so they can
explore it so so for example in your

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[tommy_stoner]: space somebody is interested in this we
can pick up the phone call and say

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[tommy_stoner]: hey can have conversation first to really
educate them and guide them see if this

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[tommy_stoner]: is a good fit for them and
ultimately we'll help shepard that into it too

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[tommy_stoner]: hiring network

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[casey_]: sure

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[tommy_stoner]: how i got affiliated with this program
as i retired after twenty nine years in

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[tommy_stoner]: the military the vast majority of that
in the special operations community so two thousand

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[tommy_stoner]: fifteen came to the program retired two
thousand six and in this organization helped me

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[tommy_stoner]: transition out of the military and actually
work at a fortunate five hundred company in

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[tommy_stoner]: kind of the technical side of the
house and data and analytics and i had

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[tommy_stoner]: really now background and technology and certainly
not in a financial institution but they helped

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[tommy_stoner]: me again identify what skills of attributes
and experience i had helped me connect to

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[tommy_stoner]: senior leaders in the organization we're able
to have a discussion with me see that

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[tommy_stoner]: value and then bring me into the
organization kind of help ship for me through

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[tommy_stoner]: the process

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[casey_]: sure

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[tommy_stoner]: i had the opportunity to come here
in two thousand six i'm sorry two thousand

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[tommy_stoner]: twenty right befo the pandemic to lead
the organization a good friend of mine rob

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[tommy_stoner]: corilla had had a capital investment company
was starting to take off and you know

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[tommy_stoner]: it was a passion of his much
like a lot of fixed list his podcast

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[tommy_stoner]: kind of go out there and run
their own thing and and he said he

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[tommy_stoner]: let me step away from this full
time you still associate with your organization and

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[tommy_stoner]: and the board thought i was get
fit to come in here and particularly as

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[tommy_stoner]: a graduate per gram to really help
continue our our mission there

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[casey_]: sure now and i also you know
one thing i think that that it's just

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[casey_]: kind of an outsider looking in when
we start talking about these the x military

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[casey_]: especially the special forces guys um it's
something that we hear a lot about on

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[casey_]: the news is taking care of the
veterans nd and i think a lot of

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[casey_]: people tend to again from the outside
looking in say taking care of the veterans

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[casey_]: to me means obviously something completely different
than probably it means to you taking care

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[casey_]: of the veterans to me is making
sure they have first and foremost mental health

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[casey_]: care mental health care that is and
then number two you know physical and so

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[casey_]: on and so forth and i think
a lot of times we attribute that to

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[casey_]: like basic life needs instead of like
how these guys go from because there's not

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[casey_]: in the consumer world there's not a
huge demand for for like um throwing

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[tommy_stoner]: oh

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[casey_]: hangernaides and being the best ak forty
seven shooter you now what i'm saying i

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[casey_]: mean and so i really love this
program and the fact that you know we're

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[casey_]: you're almost re purposing they're what they've
all they've known because again these are guys

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[casey_]: that are

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[tommy_stoner]: yeah

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[casey_]: at the very tip top of their
profession right when you talk about special forces

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[casey_]: um they're almost like they're the nflplay
is of in my opinion the f l

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[casey_]: players of the marines or of the
of the armed forces rather and so correct

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[casey_]: me if i'm wrong in any of
that i mean is that kind of and

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[casey_]: then you all are able to re
purpose some of or say hey let's take

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[casey_]: that passion that systematic way of living
because i've been around military guys to know

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[casey_]: that like i mean whenever we were
in the real estate sales business and we

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[casey_]: go show houses a lot of military
around here and you could always tell like

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[casey_]: husbands stuffs nice neat folded stacked up
on the especially higher and homes because those

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[casey_]: guys were usually the special forces and
and anyway correct me if i'm wrong in

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[casey_]: any of that but that just it
seems to me like that's kind of the

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[casey_]: direction of the organization as is almost
repurposingum what's all they've known

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[tommy_stoner]: yeah you know there's what's interesting there's
a really interesting statistic and know the department

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[tommy_stoner]: of labor they put it out in
conjunction with the v a out there about

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[tommy_stoner]: how many veterans are out in the
force and we're hovering somewhere around eight per

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[tommy_stoner]: cent and that's across blue collar white
color everything now think about that that means

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[tommy_stoner]: ninety

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[casey_]: eight

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[tommy_stoner]: two per cent

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[casey_]: eight eight percent

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[tommy_stoner]: eight percent

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[casey_]: it

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[tommy_stoner]: of the work for us right of
eight percent of americans out there i mean

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[tommy_stoner]: the number of people that actually were
volunteering these days is about one percent right

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[tommy_stoner]: so it's

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[casey_]: a

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[tommy_stoner]: pretty low but but talk it taken
everything into account what's out there and it's

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[tommy_stoner]: eight percent so that's

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[casey_]: what

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[tommy_stoner]: eight

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[casey_]: do

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[tommy_stoner]: percent

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[tommy_stoner]: work

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[casey_]: other percentage of that the people that
just straight up retire and just say hey

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[casey_]: i'm going to go like enjoy my
kids and live life

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[tommy_stoner]: well it's just not many people are
joining the military so that's that's

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[casey_]: oh

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[tommy_stoner]: just a reflection of right how many
are out there and over all

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[casey_]: i follow

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[tommy_stoner]: the

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[casey_]: you

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[tommy_stoner]: percentage

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[casey_]: know

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[tommy_stoner]: of folks joining the military is pretty
low to the popular and so we're going

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[tommy_stoner]: to see that number go down historically
before the goal i'm sorry the rack and

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[tommy_stoner]: afghanistan it was closer to low six
percent bumped up a little bit because we

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[tommy_stoner]: surged you know recruiting across the boards
we have more veterans and we historically have

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[tommy_stoner]: but that numbers starting to trend down
again and i probably stabilized around that six

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[casey_]: a

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[tommy_stoner]: so basically ninety two and ninety four
per cent of the people you are working

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[tommy_stoner]: with the work force having served the
military and sully become more senior it's actually

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[tommy_stoner]: smaller it's less than one percent of
senior leaders across all the force at five

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[tommy_stoner]: hundred companies served in the mile right

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[casey_]: wow

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[tommy_stoner]: so what you have is a really
gap of understanding of what what it means

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[tommy_stoner]: what vetransissues really are fundamentally our organization
and particularly myself think it's not mental health

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[tommy_stoner]: like everybody lists out i think mental
health is a symptom of a lot of

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[tommy_stoner]: things going on and we'll talk to
and a second the biggest thing is in

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[tommy_stoner]: general the military whether you like the
military and state in or not it gave

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[tommy_stoner]: you a sense of purpose and it
gave you a sense of team right it's

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[tommy_stoner]: why you see driving around you see
people that did three years on the marie

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[tommy_stoner]: core four years in the marine core
and thirty years later they still have the

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[tommy_stoner]: marine coreblum on the back of their
pickup trug or their car right it's because

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[tommy_stoner]: they were pretty pribly i'm purposeful about
it

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[casey_]: sure

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[tommy_stoner]: think about this how many people how
many of your team mates are driving around

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[tommy_stoner]: thirty years later with with your organization
right your company's log on the back of

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[tommy_stoner]: their car

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[casey_]: yeah and

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[tommy_stoner]: i would

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[casey_]: that's

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[tommy_stoner]: offer

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[casey_]: even the same for

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[tommy_stoner]: not

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[casey_]: like

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[tommy_stoner]: many

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[casey_]: you know when you remember when we
were rid or die for my fraternity in

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[casey_]: college i mean you know and then

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[tommy_stoner]: yeah

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[casey_]: like four years after you know you
graduate college then you go back and visit

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[casey_]: with the people school with over four
years and then eventually you're like that was

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[casey_]: but you're right i mean you got
you've got even people that have been out

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[casey_]: for forty years whatever you know that
are just still just as prideful today as

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[casey_]: they were the day they graduated basic
or whatever you know it's just it's it's

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[tommy_stoner]: absolutely

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[casey_]: it's such an interesting i don't want
to say life style but but it's but

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[casey_]: you know like i've obviously like said
i've been around a lot of these guys

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[casey_]: and the whole fort campbell field that's
that's just in our general vicinity general area

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[casey_]: is i don't know man it's like
it's like an elite club because we have

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[casey_]: the the night stalkers which is which
is i guess that and i've never really

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[casey_]: sat down and studied the divisio s
or whatever body it's a division of special

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[casey_]: forces am i correct

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[tommy_stoner]: they're the there the helicopter aviation so

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[casey_]: yeah

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[tommy_stoner]: they fly all the specialized helicopters so
they're they're a key component i mean all

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[tommy_stoner]: these missions you hear about whether it's
a son ben lawton raid or others there

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[tommy_stoner]: the one flying helicopters to get these
elite commando operators on target and then you

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[tommy_stoner]: know just importantly if more off that
target

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[casey_]: yeah well and

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[casey_]: the other thing about kind of kind
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[casey_]: space or the real estate investment space
is is a lot of a make big

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[casey_]: money i mean they make especially the
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[tommy_stoner]: really well eve it or not they
don't they're you know that's what's interesting so

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[tommy_stoner]: there an interesting dynamic so you take
a special forces operator he's not making it

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[tommy_stoner]: more than somebody in eighty second other
than maybe demolitions pay which the general person

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[tommy_stoner]: but that's a hundred and fifty dollars
a month or thereabouts so you're basically doing

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[tommy_stoner]: more higher expectati and and you're not
making any more money now there are

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[casey_]: where did

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[tommy_stoner]: retention

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[casey_]: a lot of these

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[casey_]: guys hit their where did a lot
of these guys hit their money at i

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[casey_]: mean because again i mean an okay
let me back up so a lot of

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our general economic climate is like a hundred

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[casey_]: fifty grand a year and maybe that's
maybe that's different elsewhere i don't know if

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[casey_]: it cost of living increases in different
states or whatever but do they get the

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[casey_]: big deployment bonuses and stuff is that
where a lot of them gathered like just

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[casey_]: in the last say ten years fifteen
years there their wealth

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[tommy_stoner]: you are you talking about while they're
on active duty

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[tommy_stoner]: well i mean the military you can
go up and you can figure out what

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[tommy_stoner]: any one of these these folks is
getting paid right you can literally it's a

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[tommy_stoner]: government pay schedule it's how long have
you been in what you rank what's your

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[tommy_stoner]: zip code you're living at what are
your specialties so you know they're getting flight

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[tommy_stoner]: and that's kind of it right so
where do they get their wealth well you

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[tommy_stoner]: know a lot them are probably saving
it particularly when you're deploying i know why

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[tommy_stoner]: i was deploying i wasn't didn't have
a lot of side spending so a lot

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[tommy_stoner]: of that

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[casey_]: here

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[tommy_stoner]: was going in sydney investments out there
but but you know i think the military

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[tommy_stoner]: pays in general pretty well when you
compare it to the civilian side of the

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[tommy_stoner]: house m overall and and i think
there's a fallacy that the military doesn't pay

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[tommy_stoner]: well and things and and it really
does in this game because now you know

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[tommy_stoner]: in the civilian inside the house you're
not getting on you know an airplane and

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[tommy_stoner]: going away for twelve to fifteen months
and you know not seen your family and

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[tommy_stoner]: you know by the way you may
not come back that that's

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[casey_]: yeah

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[tommy_stoner]: not very common

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[casey_]: yeah that's

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[casey_]: a caveat

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[tommy_stoner]: new or

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[casey_]: no hunter percent

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[casey_]: and there's

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[casey_]: a lot

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[casey_]: of that

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[tommy_stoner]: to where we were talking about that
kind of purposeful and prideful piece i think

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[tommy_stoner]: the biggest struggle that a lot of
veterans have and particularly within our special operations

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[tommy_stoner]: community is they're very purposeful about what
they're doing both for this nation and for

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[tommy_stoner]: their organizations they joined and then they're
they're part you talked about the athletes you

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[tommy_stoner]: know they really are scholar athletes if
you look at the special opper to me

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[tommy_stoner]: they have higher scores coming in right
right now even on our listed population that

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[tommy_stoner]: that's you know in our program i
mean we're about ninety percent have bachelors journeys

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[tommy_stoner]: and that's even including the enlisted and
they either had it before they came or

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[tommy_stoner]: they got it why they're they're serving
in some way shape form and about seventy

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[tommy_stoner]: percent have masters degrees it's just a
different population group that it goes in a

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[tommy_stoner]: special operations community so they're getting on
plug from this very purposeful passionate high performing

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[tommy_stoner]: team that they probably served with for
years if not decades in a lot of

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[tommy_stoner]: instances and then they're going out into
this unknown in the civilian world and they

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[tommy_stoner]: don't know how they feel it and
you hit it hey we don't have a

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[tommy_stoner]: lot of use for people who throw
grenades here well i can tell you in

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[tommy_stoner]: the military you know let's take one
of those special operations helicopter pilot you talk

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[tommy_stoner]: about who are the absolute best world
you know they've went they've got mission planning

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[tommy_stoner]: leadership management logistics i mean the leaders
are accountabal for all that so very multi

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[tommy_stoner]: functional working across human performance building the
right team so so take the helicopter piece

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[tommy_stoner]: out of it flying the helicopter they're
already doing that just to sustain their organization

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[tommy_stoner]: and they go through different roles r
organizational training all of that so they've got

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[tommy_stoner]: all these other skills outside of throwing
hand grenades flying helicopters you know going after

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[tommy_stoner]: bad guys and taking them down you
know the intense complexity of to make all

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[tommy_stoner]: that stuff happen that's the same thing
that business does every day right like hey

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[tommy_stoner]: how are you getting human resources and
right people and developing those folks

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[casey_]: sure

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[tommy_stoner]: what are the processes you have in
place to do things how you manage in

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[tommy_stoner]: resources where they re to lgisticalor or
financial and priortiziand executing those and that's what

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[tommy_stoner]: we do really in that first phase
is get them to understand that they do

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[tommy_stoner]: have skills outside of these war fighting
skills of support actions to give them that

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[tommy_stoner]: are absolutely one hundred percent applicable to
going out there in the civilian world and

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[tommy_stoner]: you know and doing great things for
the organization probably most ortant thing for them

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[tommy_stoner]: is what do i like doing day
to day functionally do i like kind of

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[tommy_stoner]: being in the chaos do i like
kind of building new things for looking am

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[tommy_stoner]: i the guy that loves to go
in and score the deal right i get

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[tommy_stoner]: this a lot they're like when have
military guys done sales well every time you

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[tommy_stoner]: have to try to go to a
mission in country you got to sell that

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[tommy_stoner]: mission right to the host nation the
embassy all your partners there

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[casey_]: and that's that's that's crazy you just
don't that's the stuff you don't think about

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[casey_]: that's

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[tommy_stoner]: yeah

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[casey_]: the like that that right there almost
humanizes the whole thing because like a lot

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[casey_]: of see this as like from the
outside looking in is like and that guy's

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[casey_]: a helicopter pilot he didn't he doesn't
have a you know whatever it doesn't have

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[casey_]: a clue how to do whatever common
daily task and else whatever and and but

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[casey_]: that humanizes it when you're like hey
man they've got to get they gotta get

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[casey_]: this brass on the phone and then
this you know they've got to sell it

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[casey_]: up the line and then up the
line has to turn around and sell it

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[casey_]: to the host nation that's like hey
will you come in there and let us

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[tommy_stoner]: yeah

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[casey_]: that

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[tommy_stoner]: and usually it's

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[tommy_stoner]: not up the line

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[casey_]: has

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[tommy_stoner]: every

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[casey_]: always funny

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[tommy_stoner]: it's really not up the line it's
usually actually at the point end of the

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[tommy_stoner]: spear right

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[casey_]: i

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[tommy_stoner]: it's

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[casey_]: tell you all

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[tommy_stoner]: you know

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[casey_]: this conversation shows you how much i
really know

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[tommy_stoner]: yeah

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[casey_]: what's going on like five minutes from
where i live and

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[tommy_stoner]: ah it's some sergeant major or colonel
or warrant officer or chief petty officer you

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[tommy_stoner]: know who's the face right because they
could be on the phone back to wherever

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[tommy_stoner]: but that's the face of what needs
to happen right there particularly in crisis vents

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[tommy_stoner]: uh you know or you're sitting you're
sitting in sub sahara africa you know trying

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[tommy_stoner]: to get them to come you know
is loman extremist so how do you convince

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[tommy_stoner]: these local forces or these tribes right
to be on your side your different religion

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[tommy_stoner]: you know you're different race and you're
not

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[casey_]: yeah

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[tommy_stoner]: part of their tribe and you're an
american and you know it's all kinds of

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[tommy_stoner]: things how do you influence in that
or or let's take one of these c

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[tommy_stoner]: i a case officers right that's going
out there and trying to convince somebody to

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[tommy_stoner]: probably betray their company know their country
or their organization on our behalf that's a

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[tommy_stoner]: pretty pretty substantial sales job right like

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[casey_]: you

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[tommy_stoner]: like

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[casey_]: air

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[tommy_stoner]: if you can commit somebody to betray
their country you can probably go sell some

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[tommy_stoner]: commercial real estate right you just got
to get knowledge ole about commercial real estate

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[tommy_stoner]: but there's skills attributes and the experience
around things like influence and gaining trust and

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[tommy_stoner]: things like that you know it's applicable
everywhere a lot of the officers have to

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[tommy_stoner]: go work inside belt way and get
appropriations right like he

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[casey_]: yeah

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[tommy_stoner]: want new helicopters or these operations so
you're sitting there dealing with congress i can

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[tommy_stoner]: tell you having been you know because
a lot of what i do in this

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[tommy_stoner]: role of sales in terms of trying
get folks to donate to our program and

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[tommy_stoner]: things like that that's really sales trying
to get people to buy into our program

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[tommy_stoner]: of taking a look at our folks
at sales the toughest sales job i ever

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[tommy_stoner]: had was talking to congress you know
congressional staffing teams right sometimes they're twenty two

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[tommy_stoner]: year old and don't know anything but
they got hired because you know they're friends

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[tommy_stoner]: of a family or they did an
intern ship sometimes they're very senior you know

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[tommy_stoner]: they may be very anti military but
they're going to vote on appropriation to be

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[tommy_stoner]: little that's very important what we're trying
to do and you got to go in

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[tommy_stoner]: there and influence everything from very season
ple to twenty two year old you don't

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[tommy_stoner]: really don't know much from much you
know to influence him to say hey your

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[tommy_stoner]: boss really needs to vote on this
and it's really important it's a sales job

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[tommy_stoner]: and it's very you know it's a
one so you know we

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[casey_]: oh

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[tommy_stoner]: we help educate our folks that you
do have these things it's just you got

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[tommy_stoner]: to kind of put them in context
of what you're doing

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[casey_]: sure

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[tommy_stoner]: and then be able to tell the
story that resonate

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[casey_]: oh

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[tommy_stoner]: with the person who talked to the
potential business partner and we do the same

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[tommy_stoner]: thing when we have people approach is
that arnrisare hiring our folks you know just

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[tommy_stoner]: kind of what they're going to bring
to the table and in the background you

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[tommy_stoner]: know a navy seal a little bit
different from army special forces uh service member

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[tommy_stoner]: just because of their missions slightly different
same core characteristics but a little bit different

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[tommy_stoner]: kind of how they approach things but
we'll help educate on both sides and in

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[tommy_stoner]: a lot of times it's almost like
one person speaking spanish other speaking english and

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[tommy_stoner]: you just need to translate and you
make that translation bridge and you get somebody

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[tommy_stoner]: who's willing listen to it in the
right environment and that's where the magic happens

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[tommy_stoner]: and at that point we can usually
almost walk away because the light bulb goes

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[tommy_stoner]: on and they're like wow let's if
you can do it in this environment my

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[tommy_stoner]: might vironment is nothing like this one
of the first meetings i did when i

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[tommy_stoner]: went to work for this bank in
the text spaces has probably been there two

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[tommy_stoner]: weeks and i went to a meeting
and it was an incredibly contentious meeting i

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[tommy_stoner]: mean there's somebody crying there are people
like losing their minds there and you know

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[tommy_stoner]: it's pretty easy to be like hey
nobody's dying today zero

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[tommy_stoner]: people are dying with anything going on
here and nobody's going to be hurt this

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[tommy_stoner]: is very important stuff to our and
in in our clients but nobody's dying so

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[tommy_stoner]: let's start with that and then we
can measure you know from there so the

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[tommy_stoner]: ability to wait into complex situations cause
they've been stressed part of being selected for

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[tommy_stoner]: all these organizations is being able to
go into these very stressful complex environments and

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[tommy_stoner]: succeed um and and that's what they
bring to the table people see the seals

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[tommy_stoner]: out there in the surf with the
logs and the boats and doing all this

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[tommy_stoner]: crazy stuff special forces selection you're carrying
around a jeep that has one will with

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[tommy_stoner]: eight guys you know and

392
00:22:12,242 --> 00:22:12,385
[casey_]: yeah

393
00:22:12,540 --> 00:22:17,849
[tommy_stoner]: and you know it's people think it's
a physical event the physical peace to all

394
00:22:17,909 --> 00:22:21,716
[tommy_stoner]: those exercises is to induce stress on
the candidate

395
00:22:21,950 --> 00:22:22,395
[casey_]: that's right

396
00:22:22,437 --> 00:22:26,684
[tommy_stoner]: and with that stress then you can
assess how they're going to be they're going

397
00:22:26,724 --> 00:22:30,330
[tommy_stoner]: to turn inward and not you be
a team player it's all about them or

398
00:22:30,350 --> 00:22:33,756
[tommy_stoner]: they going to quit are they going
to break and what all those things are

399
00:22:33,836 --> 00:22:38,303
[tommy_stoner]: doing the like the bud tail week
and the special forces sucks in its lection

400
00:22:38,806 --> 00:22:43,124
[tommy_stoner]: and what they do with the aviators
is can they function under stress because

401
00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:43,122
[casey_]: yeah

402
00:22:43,164 --> 00:22:46,890
[tommy_stoner]: if you can then it's pointless if
everything is perfect and you can function perfectly

403
00:22:46,970 --> 00:22:50,717
[tommy_stoner]: great but one time at the one
moment there's sand in the gear if everything

404
00:22:51,017 --> 00:22:53,822
[tommy_stoner]: blows up it's not good right it's

405
00:22:53,990 --> 00:22:54,131
[casey_]: yep

406
00:22:54,423 --> 00:22:58,573
[tommy_stoner]: eighty per cent and all the time
is better than perfect one percent of the

407
00:22:58,633 --> 00:23:01,882
[tommy_stoner]: time and and that's kind of what
they're looking for is the folks that can

408
00:23:02,664 --> 00:23:07,390
[tommy_stoner]: through that stressful environment continue to be
a team player lead motivate and inspire the

409
00:23:07,450 --> 00:23:12,298
[tommy_stoner]: team and actually bring problem solving skills
to the table there and that's where they

410
00:23:12,378 --> 00:23:16,207
[tommy_stoner]: start and then everything else after that
it's just building upon those crore

411
00:23:15,926 --> 00:23:16,150
[casey_]: yes

412
00:23:16,889 --> 00:23:18,452
[tommy_stoner]: capabilities and attributes

413
00:23:18,791 --> 00:23:24,046
[casey_]: so you know at the same time
you know when i when i always might

414
00:23:24,106 --> 00:23:30,176
[casey_]: go to for why there's why so
many military ex military guys get into guys

415
00:23:30,236 --> 00:23:35,965
[casey_]: and ladies by the way um get
into this space is because of the systematic

416
00:23:36,045 --> 00:23:36,386
[casey_]: nature

417
00:23:36,224 --> 00:23:36,305
[tommy_stoner]: we

418
00:23:37,047 --> 00:23:41,714
[casey_]: and i think actually what you're what
you're talking about right now could actually be

419
00:23:42,656 --> 00:23:47,403
[casey_]: even ahead of the systematic part i
think the systematic part is almost the benefit

420
00:23:47,444 --> 00:23:50,388
[casey_]: of getting in the business because a
lot of us i'm not ex military so

421
00:23:50,449 --> 00:23:56,412
[casey_]: i don't want to say isn't that
that regard but when it's the problem solving

422
00:23:56,492 --> 00:24:01,740
[casey_]: it's the ability to handle stress it's
the ability to say like you said it's

423
00:24:01,801 --> 00:24:06,108
[casey_]: almost like when my kid comes in
to my room or whatever crying okay is

424
00:24:06,168 --> 00:24:10,477
[casey_]: anybody dead no are you bleeding no
is anything broken no do we need to

425
00:24:10,517 --> 00:24:17,323
[casey_]: go to the hospital no okay then
chill and let's figure this out and i

426
00:24:17,403 --> 00:24:25,513
[casey_]: think that nature of things is almost
i guess i just look for any time

427
00:24:25,593 --> 00:24:32,725
[casey_]: i see start to see statistical things
and statistical things to me is is the

428
00:24:32,785 --> 00:24:36,852
[casey_]: military make up ex military make up
of this business and and i just said

429
00:24:37,213 --> 00:24:41,560
[casey_]: i always found myself trying to dissect
why do people do things why do people

430
00:24:41,660 --> 00:24:46,288
[casey_]: do these things why do people react
to marketing materials why do people react to

431
00:24:47,029 --> 00:24:51,396
[casey_]: this facebook post this way or this
instagram post that way and then when you

432
00:24:51,496 --> 00:24:55,282
[casey_]: just really sit down and start trying
to the pencil to paper on some of

433
00:24:55,322 --> 00:24:59,209
[casey_]: this stuff it just it's and so
anyway i guess i'm getting off on a

434
00:24:59,249 --> 00:25:04,058
[casey_]: tangent here i just want to just
that's that's just my thoughts and so so

435
00:25:05,210 --> 00:25:10,178
[casey_]: but i can't help but have massive
respect for the fact that you all are

436
00:25:10,238 --> 00:25:15,427
[casey_]: doing what you're doing especially doing it
as a non profit because there are so

437
00:25:15,487 --> 00:25:21,317
[casey_]: many people out there right now that
need help just and honestly man a lot

438
00:25:21,377 --> 00:25:27,445
[casey_]: of the help really could be taken
care of by somebody simply standing behind them

439
00:25:27,485 --> 00:25:32,594
[casey_]: and saying hey turn this way right
and how much help did you just give

440
00:25:32,654 --> 00:25:38,123
[casey_]: that person by just simply changing their
direction by one ree right and and you

441
00:25:38,223 --> 00:25:41,629
[casey_]: get them into something like man i
really like this and the fact that you

442
00:25:41,709 --> 00:25:48,151
[casey_]: all do that as a non profit
is is just astounding to me because there

443
00:25:48,191 --> 00:25:53,635
[casey_]: is so many for profit things like
that out there as well coaching programs and

444
00:25:54,237 --> 00:26:00,088
[casey_]: ten thousand dollar this and twenty thousand
dollar that and and books and everything else

445
00:26:00,208 --> 00:26:04,675
[casey_]: but the fact of the matter is
i when when when people look behind them

446
00:26:04,855 --> 00:26:08,191
[casey_]: and they're like man this guy doesn't
have to be here he could be off

447
00:26:08,291 --> 00:26:12,017
[casey_]: playing golf he could be off baby
sitting his grand kids he could be off

448
00:26:12,077 --> 00:26:14,301
[casey_]: doing i don't mean you have grant
don't you know if you have grand kids

449
00:26:14,321 --> 00:26:16,725
[casey_]: i'm just i don't want to aid
you there but what i'm getting at is

450
00:26:17,164 --> 00:26:17,448
[tommy_stoner]: oh

451
00:26:17,546 --> 00:26:17,887
[casey_]: is

452
00:26:18,343 --> 00:26:18,364
[tommy_stoner]: h

453
00:26:19,810 --> 00:26:23,077
[casey_]: these people these people that are operating
and working in this non profit could be

454
00:26:23,117 --> 00:26:27,506
[casey_]: doing something else but yet they're here
standing behind me and it gives some comfort

455
00:26:27,546 --> 00:26:32,131
[casey_]: level to him to say hey instead
of looking that way just change your direction

456
00:26:32,271 --> 00:26:36,798
[casey_]: one degree and look that way check
this business out or how can we help

457
00:26:36,898 --> 00:26:40,324
[casey_]: you by getting you connected with this
guy maybe you like that model maybe you

458
00:26:40,404 --> 00:26:44,171
[casey_]: don't maybe this is the business for
you maybe it's not but don't know unless

459
00:26:44,191 --> 00:26:51,211
[casey_]: you try but you're automatically you all
are automatically bringing to the table like if

460
00:26:51,251 --> 00:26:55,859
[casey_]: you brought ten people to me i
can almost guarantee you that there's going to

461
00:26:55,899 --> 00:27:00,347
[casey_]: be two or three that really fit
the mold and really find what they consider

462
00:27:00,407 --> 00:27:01,228
[casey_]: to be their purpose

463
00:27:03,704 --> 00:27:08,753
[tommy_stoner]: yeah you know it's the reason i
came back to this organization was you know

464
00:27:08,793 --> 00:27:11,237
[tommy_stoner]: and i never really left i was
always a volunteer i set on the board

465
00:27:11,257 --> 00:27:14,442
[tommy_stoner]: for a little while but the reason
i shifted to do in full time is

466
00:27:14,543 --> 00:27:18,996
[tommy_stoner]: because i had impact my transition and
going back to the point is i think

467
00:27:19,257 --> 00:27:24,867
[tommy_stoner]: when when folks lose that purpose and
team that's where you start to see the

468
00:27:25,247 --> 00:27:28,771
[tommy_stoner]: depression which leads to other things and
a lot of the veterans issues

469
00:27:28,381 --> 00:27:28,828
[casey_]: correct

470
00:27:28,851 --> 00:27:34,117
[tommy_stoner]: so i really view having a positive
transition as it's going to reduce a significant

471
00:27:34,177 --> 00:27:38,344
[tommy_stoner]: number not all of them right but
a significant number everything thinks like the depression

472
00:27:39,746 --> 00:27:45,356
[tommy_stoner]: is really related to combat and it's
not and the statistics

473
00:27:45,220 --> 00:27:45,382
[casey_]: now

474
00:27:45,396 --> 00:27:48,381
[tommy_stoner]: are on the v a really show
that if you look at who's going to

475
00:27:48,421 --> 00:27:53,429
[tommy_stoner]: them with depression and pulls of the
population it's that loss of sense of purpose

476
00:27:53,570 --> 00:27:58,700
[tommy_stoner]: that you know something they are doing
and not fitting so we can reduce a

477
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:02,790
[tommy_stoner]: great amount of that by making sure
service members have a really positive transition

478
00:28:03,091 --> 00:28:07,127
[casey_]: and don't we see we see a
lot of that same that same

479
00:28:08,074 --> 00:28:08,094
[tommy_stoner]: m

480
00:28:08,850 --> 00:28:13,778
[casey_]: mental thing that you just said loss
of purpose we see the almost the almost

481
00:28:13,858 --> 00:28:18,346
[casey_]: the same identical thing to people that
have have served say twenty years in jail

482
00:28:18,746 --> 00:28:26,810
[casey_]: or prison they come out all of
a sudden they're like what you mean i

483
00:28:26,850 --> 00:28:29,574
[casey_]: don't have to go to dishes or
i don't have to go to you now

484
00:28:30,075 --> 00:28:35,484
[casey_]: and it's like it's a it's i
guess you just see that same almost state

485
00:28:36,185 --> 00:28:39,775
[casey_]: when people just lose that sense of
when all and that sense of purpose is

486
00:28:39,856 --> 00:28:41,967
[casey_]: more or less just pulled out from
under him right

487
00:28:43,014 --> 00:28:45,157
[tommy_stoner]: yeah you know and it's like

488
00:28:45,510 --> 00:28:45,675
[casey_]: ye

489
00:28:45,658 --> 00:28:48,803
[tommy_stoner]: serving the bigger thing you know or
what's going to get you up in the

490
00:28:48,843 --> 00:28:51,848
[tommy_stoner]: morning like you're not going to sit
in the driveway gripping your steering well and

491
00:28:51,888 --> 00:28:53,291
[tommy_stoner]: gritting your teeth because you got to
go to

492
00:28:53,237 --> 00:28:53,438
[casey_]: yeah

493
00:28:53,371 --> 00:28:53,992
[tommy_stoner]: work right

494
00:28:54,002 --> 00:28:54,365
[casey_]: yeah yeah

495
00:28:54,453 --> 00:28:59,825
[tommy_stoner]: like we don't the term work we
use the term hey let's what's your next

496
00:28:59,925 --> 00:29:00,948
[tommy_stoner]: career right what's

497
00:29:00,810 --> 00:29:01,470
[casey_]: yeah

498
00:29:00,968 --> 00:29:05,777
[tommy_stoner]: your next career pack because it works
work but you know like i have to

499
00:29:05,997 --> 00:29:09,283
[tommy_stoner]: you know this weekend i worked on
my lawn because it was exactly that it's

500
00:29:09,343 --> 00:29:12,808
[tommy_stoner]: like must do thing you know didn't
want to do it but i did it

501
00:29:13,049 --> 00:29:15,032
[tommy_stoner]: i had to power was the drive
away all that

502
00:29:15,030 --> 00:29:15,232
[casey_]: oh

503
00:29:15,092 --> 00:29:15,613
[tommy_stoner]: good stuff

504
00:29:15,372 --> 00:29:15,574
[casey_]: yeah

505
00:29:15,974 --> 00:29:20,647
[tommy_stoner]: that was work i don't get purposeful
and get up cheery that i had to

506
00:29:20,687 --> 00:29:25,077
[tommy_stoner]: get to it but you know it
was something i had to do and it's

507
00:29:25,157 --> 00:29:29,244
[tommy_stoner]: why we don't use the term work
we're looking to get people into different career

508
00:29:29,344 --> 00:29:33,190
[tommy_stoner]: paths so they can go out there
and do something where you know they've got

509
00:29:33,250 --> 00:29:37,598
[tommy_stoner]: a purpose they enjoy what they're doing
and they're contributing back to the organization they

510
00:29:37,698 --> 00:29:42,666
[tommy_stoner]: joined because if they're happy and their
contribute back through organization that's it's just great

511
00:29:42,726 --> 00:29:47,033
[tommy_stoner]: for everybody it's great for business it's
great for america and it circles back to

512
00:29:47,654 --> 00:29:51,401
[tommy_stoner]: you know it helps claw away what's
going on with veterans out

513
00:29:51,282 --> 00:29:51,466
[casey_]: sure

514
00:29:51,461 --> 00:29:55,928
[tommy_stoner]: there and in that sense of purpose
piece the p t s d folks have

515
00:29:56,008 --> 00:30:01,785
[tommy_stoner]: it right i mean we this generation
serve more time and combat than any generation

516
00:30:01,986 --> 00:30:02,167
[tommy_stoner]: through

517
00:30:02,031 --> 00:30:02,234
[casey_]: sure

518
00:30:02,207 --> 00:30:02,649
[tommy_stoner]: the longest

519
00:30:02,518 --> 00:30:02,721
[casey_]: sure

520
00:30:02,709 --> 00:30:08,418
[tommy_stoner]: wars now we've got operators that have
a decade like literally a decade of time

521
00:30:08,579 --> 00:30:14,054
[tommy_stoner]: in combat it it's unprecedented there is
no other veteran community that had that out

522
00:30:14,114 --> 00:30:19,123
[tommy_stoner]: there so the there is that out
there but that's really can be dealt with

523
00:30:19,263 --> 00:30:23,269
[tommy_stoner]: and it's not something like folks you
know bring into their daily lives and things

524
00:30:23,330 --> 00:30:28,663
[tommy_stoner]: like that so again ha kind of
something purposeful making sure they're connected the community

525
00:30:29,365 --> 00:30:35,299
[tommy_stoner]: really just helps alleviate in our opinion
a substantial number of those organizations we certainly

526
00:30:35,419 --> 00:30:42,010
[tommy_stoner]: see it with our alumni who have
gotten out there and found a new track

527
00:30:42,150 --> 00:30:46,398
[tommy_stoner]: that that they can be purposeful about
and they're engaged in their communities and they're

528
00:30:46,418 --> 00:30:51,466
[tommy_stoner]: engaged in the veteran community and they're
really just given back and and it's in

529
00:30:51,526 --> 00:30:55,072
[tommy_stoner]: is good and it's going to claw
away the problem and for me what's super

530
00:30:55,132 --> 00:30:59,840
[tommy_stoner]: exciting is that but they're just watching
the impact they're having on these very different

531
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:06,892
[tommy_stoner]: you know all levels very small organizations
very big fortune one hundred organizations nd they're

532
00:31:06,912 --> 00:31:12,505
[tommy_stoner]: all just having really tremendous impacts there
and changing the paratime and how people view

533
00:31:12,686 --> 00:31:13,127
[tommy_stoner]: veterans

534
00:31:13,610 --> 00:31:13,751
[casey_]: sure

535
00:31:13,909 --> 00:31:14,330
[tommy_stoner]: overall

536
00:31:14,195 --> 00:31:14,356
[casey_]: sure

537
00:31:14,430 --> 00:31:15,332
[tommy_stoner]: in terms of hiring them

538
00:31:15,860 --> 00:31:22,150
[casey_]: yeah all right well listen tommy thank
you so much and obviously i always sometimes

539
00:31:22,210 --> 00:31:25,997
[casey_]: when i have folks that are passed
military on the show i always like to

540
00:31:26,037 --> 00:31:29,883
[casey_]: thank you for your service to start
with i mean and you know people that

541
00:31:29,963 --> 00:31:35,052
[casey_]: are that are out there know that
we we greatly appreciate everything that you all

542
00:31:35,092 --> 00:31:40,402
[casey_]: ave done because the fact that you
all have gone off for our freedom and

543
00:31:40,462 --> 00:31:46,336
[casey_]: any military person listening active or passed
listening to our podcast we we just we

544
00:31:46,456 --> 00:31:52,426
[casey_]: get to do what we want to
do because of you and because of manly

545
00:31:52,486 --> 00:31:57,354
[casey_]: the brothers and sisters that you all
have sacrificed everything so that we can live

546
00:31:57,394 --> 00:32:01,481
[casey_]: in a great country so so certainly
want to definitely thank you

547
00:32:01,566 --> 00:32:01,687
[tommy_stoner]: oh

548
00:32:01,581 --> 00:32:03,725
[casey_]: for that thank you for what you're
doing

549
00:32:05,124 --> 00:32:05,285
[tommy_stoner]: yes

550
00:32:05,588 --> 00:32:11,578
[casey_]: it's a mat a massive service to
to the veterans that come out especially ones

551
00:32:11,658 --> 00:32:16,967
[casey_]: that really need that that help and
direction and finding that since purpose with that

552
00:32:17,027 --> 00:32:20,013
[casey_]: being said tommy we've got a couple
of quests s we ask every guest that

553
00:32:20,073 --> 00:32:21,357
[casey_]: comes on the show and the first
of those

554
00:32:21,394 --> 00:32:21,595
[tommy_stoner]: oh

555
00:32:21,417 --> 00:32:25,808
[casey_]: questions is what is the best book
that you've recently read or are currently reading

556
00:32:27,606 --> 00:32:32,240
[tommy_stoner]: tribes it's really about trans know it's
about that

557
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:34,380
[casey_]: yeah

558
00:32:33,724 --> 00:32:40,438
[tommy_stoner]: lack of connection that a lot of
veterans have you know when they transition and

559
00:32:40,478 --> 00:32:43,667
[tommy_stoner]: it was a new book that was
referred to me you know a couple of

560
00:32:43,727 --> 00:32:44,189
[tommy_stoner]: weeks ago

561
00:32:45,096 --> 00:32:45,178
[casey_]: ah

562
00:32:46,684 --> 00:32:50,968
[tommy_stoner]: and it's it's putting words know what
you know what i was trying describe to

563
00:32:51,008 --> 00:32:57,173
[tommy_stoner]: you about about the transition and it's
at your being disconnected from your tribe there

564
00:32:57,730 --> 00:33:03,137
[casey_]: yeah that's right that's right so all
right awesome what is a dream vacation that

565
00:33:03,197 --> 00:33:04,339
[casey_]: you have taken or hoped to take

566
00:33:06,175 --> 00:33:11,264
[tommy_stoner]: yeah i'll tell you i've never been
to australia in that area new zealand i

567
00:33:11,424 --> 00:33:14,890
[tommy_stoner]: definitely love to get down there and
probably starting with new zealand i'm a pretty

568
00:33:14,950 --> 00:33:19,017
[tommy_stoner]: passionate fly fisherman and they've got so
this is some of the best world class

569
00:33:19,578 --> 00:33:22,022
[tommy_stoner]: fly fishing for big mass and browns

570
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:22,772
[casey_]: in new zealand they do

571
00:33:23,614 --> 00:33:24,517
[tommy_stoner]: they do that's

572
00:33:24,570 --> 00:33:24,751
[casey_]: wow

573
00:33:24,677 --> 00:33:25,860
[tommy_stoner]: that's right and

574
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:31,127
[casey_]: i grew up in colorado and fly
fishing was always big for trout big

575
00:33:30,974 --> 00:33:31,396
[tommy_stoner]: yeah yeah

576
00:33:31,648 --> 00:33:32,249
[casey_]: big big

577
00:33:32,079 --> 00:33:36,259
[tommy_stoner]: yeah i find i grew up i
was born to one with springs colorado so

578
00:33:36,459 --> 00:33:36,820
[tommy_stoner]: ken grew

579
00:33:36,712 --> 00:33:36,957
[casey_]: okay

580
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:38,282
[tommy_stoner]: up in the thing so

581
00:33:38,850 --> 00:33:39,072
[casey_]: yeah

582
00:33:39,164 --> 00:33:42,650
[tommy_stoner]: uh yeah so that that's it you
know get out there and the order of

583
00:33:42,690 --> 00:33:48,400
[tommy_stoner]: the rings you know and and do
you fly fishing which is my passion and

584
00:33:48,420 --> 00:33:52,728
[tommy_stoner]: then get down to australia which you
know is a pretty pretty amazing place in

585
00:33:52,788 --> 00:33:55,113
[tommy_stoner]: terms of the geography on the continent

586
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:59,748
[casey_]: oh yeah and in terms of just
like how many different

587
00:33:59,779 --> 00:34:00,304
[tommy_stoner]: what

588
00:34:00,290 --> 00:34:07,151
[casey_]: places on this planet could you see
that array of life and all of god's

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[casey_]: creations basically on in one i mean
other than i mean just saying like things

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think everybody they have their kangaroos and their

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[casey_]: fosters b and that stuff is wonderful
so anyway all right with that being said

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[casey_]: what is the best way for a
listener to reach out and get in touch

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[casey_]: with you um again especially if we
just so happen this episode trips across or

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[casey_]: some trips

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[tommy_stoner]: no

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[casey_]: across this episode that's past military or
somebody that needs to reach out to you

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[casey_]: to talk to you about anything that
you all have to offer what is the

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[casey_]: best wait for that to happen

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[tommy_stoner]: yeah go to our website it's w
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[tommy_stoner]: look through it look through what we
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a hiring partner into our donor so it's

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[tommy_stoner]: all right there so take a look
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[tommy_stoner]: us

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[casey_]: awesome awesome tommy thank you so much
and listeners special thank you to our armed

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[casey_]: forces it always gives us a reminder
when we have folks like tommy on the

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[casey_]: show to to to say a prayer
for all of you all and let there

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[casey_]: be more peace in this world we
all hope for but we all know what

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[casey_]: happens at times so thank you so
much for listening today and while we're ending

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[casey_]: the episode please scroll down and smash
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[casey_]: thank you enough for being with us
today listeners thank you i hope everybody has

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[casey_]: a wonderful rest of the

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[tommy_stoner]: yes

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[casey_]: day

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[tommy_stoner]: thanks appreciate it