Real Estate FOMO & Trust with Nathan Amaral

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[casey_]: hey there

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[nathan_amaral]: the

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[casey_]: and welcome to today's episode of cash
flow pro your daily real estate investing podcast

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[casey_]: and youtube channel i'm here today

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[nathan_amaral]: you're

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[casey_]: with nathan amoral from panta del gada
portugal right

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[nathan_amaral]: yeah

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[casey_]: he's about i forget how far exactly

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[nathan_amaral]: yeah

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[casey_]: off the portugal coast but he is
basically in the middle of the atlantic ocean

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[casey_]: very very high spot on my bucket
list to visit there the canary islands that

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[casey_]: whole general area is like de one
of our questions at the end of this

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[casey_]: is where would you like to vacation
and

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[nathan_amaral]: oh

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[casey_]: man i mean that's

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[nathan_amaral]: yeah

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[casey_]: you're like living

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[nathan_amaral]: uh

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[casey_]: the vacation every day i'm

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[nathan_amaral]: ah

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[casey_]: assuming it's obviously more

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[nathan_amaral]: yeah

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[casey_]: like life there for you but

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[nathan_amaral]: yeah

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[casey_]: the idea that somebody is actually there
and things happen on those islands where there's

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[casey_]: like actually life and so on where
things we want to hear about so anyway

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[nathan_amaral]: yeah

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[casey_]: nathan welcome to the show um once
you start off kind of tell us a

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[casey_]: little bit about yourself and then we'll
kind of take it from there

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[nathan_amaral]: hm

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[casey_]: as far as entrepreneur and so on
and so forth goes

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[nathan_amaral]: i mean well first if you thanks
so much for having me on your show

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[casey_]: absolutely

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[nathan_amaral]: definitely see how we have unique things
in common and regarding you know capital raising

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[nathan_amaral]: i mean just i mean a quick
summary about how here to these islands i

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[nathan_amaral]: actually first my family emigrated from here
over to the united states in a small

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[nathan_amaral]: city called fall river massachusetts many many
years ago that's where i was born and

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[nathan_amaral]: raised machusetts and and just you know
from there i got i got exposed to

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[nathan_amaral]: real estate at a young age from
my xpence's dad who kind of pushed me

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[nathan_amaral]: into real estate because he's like if
you want to marry my daughter you better

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[nathan_amaral]: get into real estate and he was
a mortgage broker at the time so

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[casey_]: oh

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[nathan_amaral]: i got in i got in i
got in the

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[casey_]: drumming

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[nathan_amaral]: business

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[casey_]: up business wasn't he

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[nathan_amaral]: yeah exactly

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[casey_]: oh

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[nathan_amaral]: i got into business through through him
and i got into became a mortgage broker

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[nathan_amaral]: and got familiar with you know anything
with financing that way did that for about

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[nathan_amaral]: four years

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[casey_]: ere

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[nathan_amaral]: then i

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[casey_]: the

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[nathan_amaral]: started investing myself very

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[casey_]: the

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[nathan_amaral]: slowly

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[casey_]: very

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[nathan_amaral]: in houses

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[casey_]: houses

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[nathan_amaral]: to start off

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[casey_]: to

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[nathan_amaral]: with

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[casey_]: start off

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[nathan_amaral]: and

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[casey_]: with

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[nathan_amaral]: then

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[casey_]: and

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[nathan_amaral]: just started

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[casey_]: started

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[nathan_amaral]: scaling up i met a good buddy
of mine

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[casey_]: of

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[nathan_amaral]: his

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[casey_]: money

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[nathan_amaral]: name is

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[casey_]: because

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[nathan_amaral]: larry

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[casey_]: it was

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[nathan_amaral]: goin's

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[casey_]: were

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[nathan_amaral]: out of

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[casey_]: out

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[nathan_amaral]: south

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[casey_]: of

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[nathan_amaral]: carolina

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[casey_]: south carolina

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[nathan_amaral]: and we ended up working together we
partnered on a few projects

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[casey_]: project

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[nathan_amaral]: one of the

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[casey_]: and

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[nathan_amaral]: things

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[casey_]: one

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[nathan_amaral]: he

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[casey_]: the

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[nathan_amaral]: taught me case was i remember going
into his office and he had his big

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[nathan_amaral]: white

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[casey_]: big

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[nathan_amaral]: board

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[casey_]: white

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[nathan_amaral]: of

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[casey_]: more

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[nathan_amaral]: all these deals that

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[casey_]: skil

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[nathan_amaral]: was going on which is pretty common
but then he said i never leave my

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[nathan_amaral]: office that's what he that's what he
told me a lie i never leave

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[casey_]: never

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[nathan_amaral]: my office i was like

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[casey_]: like

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[nathan_amaral]: what

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[casey_]: what

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[nathan_amaral]: you never

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[casey_]: you

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[nathan_amaral]: go look at a property he said
no

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[casey_]: no

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[nathan_amaral]: i do this

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[casey_]: i did

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[nathan_amaral]: all

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[casey_]: it

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[nathan_amaral]: virtually

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[casey_]: all vice

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[nathan_amaral]: and so when

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[casey_]: so

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[nathan_amaral]: i saw that and i heard

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[casey_]: they

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[nathan_amaral]: that

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[casey_]: heard

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[nathan_amaral]: i said okay

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[casey_]: at

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[nathan_amaral]: i

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[casey_]: okay

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[nathan_amaral]: want to

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[casey_]: i'm

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[nathan_amaral]: try

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[casey_]: gonna

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[nathan_amaral]: this so i at my first property

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[casey_]: first property

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[nathan_amaral]: about three

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[casey_]: about

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[nathan_amaral]: or

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[casey_]: thee

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[nathan_amaral]: four

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[casey_]: to four

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[casey_]: i was

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[nathan_amaral]: way

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[casey_]: right

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[nathan_amaral]: never

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[casey_]: never

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[nathan_amaral]: walked

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[casey_]: walk

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[nathan_amaral]: the property

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[casey_]: property

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[nathan_amaral]: and then

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[casey_]: and then

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[nathan_amaral]: i did it successfully

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[casey_]: successful

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[nathan_amaral]: flipped it did another

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[casey_]: another

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[nathan_amaral]: one and i

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[nathan_amaral]: just

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[nathan_amaral]: kept

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[casey_]: just kept

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[nathan_amaral]: doing

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[casey_]: doing

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[nathan_amaral]: that and

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[casey_]: that

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[nathan_amaral]: then i started buying properties holding

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[casey_]: cold

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[nathan_amaral]: it and getting

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[casey_]: halt

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[nathan_amaral]: management involved

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[casey_]: family deals or just one off

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[nathan_amaral]: at the time at the time it
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[nathan_amaral]: few multi

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[nathan_amaral]: families but the multi families were in
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[nathan_amaral]: yeah but in north and south carolina
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[nathan_amaral]: so i just kept doing all this
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[nathan_amaral]: we have a similar thing in common

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[casey_]: you

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[nathan_amaral]: we have to travel the travel addiction
to travel itch i said

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[casey_]: i know

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[nathan_amaral]: well

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[casey_]: i do every

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[nathan_amaral]: yeah

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[casey_]: every day i'm like ready to

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[nathan_amaral]: ready

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[nathan_amaral]: go

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[casey_]: i'd even go like somewhere in texas
right now if i mean just

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[nathan_amaral]: yeah

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[casey_]: if i could get away and go
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[nathan_amaral]: yeah man that's that's how i lived
my life and had and so it was

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[nathan_amaral]: just a dream back then i was
like okay how can i take my business

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[nathan_amaral]: you know and what i do internationally
ironically in twenty thirteen i connected with my

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[nathan_amaral]: friend who lived who was a ugondin
citizen lives in uganda we were friends for

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[nathan_amaral]: a long time and i finally went
out there to visit her and within those

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[nathan_amaral]: two weeks i proposed to her and
you know we were engaged so i went

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[nathan_amaral]: back to the united states to charlotte
i sold everything i had like my personal

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[nathan_amaral]: items sold all it's stuff and then
i moved to uganda thirty days later um

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[casey_]: yeah

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[nathan_amaral]: you know shortly after that a few
months after we had our wedding we were

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[nathan_amaral]: you know had a first kid and
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[nathan_amaral]: then we just built a life and
i've been living in uganda now for nine

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[casey_]: and that's where she was originally from

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[nathan_amaral]: yeah

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[casey_]: you

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[nathan_amaral]: my

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[casey_]: said

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[nathan_amaral]: wife's uganda yeah

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[casey_]: awesome

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[nathan_amaral]: yeah

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[casey_]: man i don't even think like uganda
is one of those places that we always

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[casey_]: hear about over here but none of
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[nathan_amaral]: yeah

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[casey_]: i don't think actually know exactly where
it's at so where is that at

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[nathan_amaral]: a little bit of yeah geography would
be there's kenya and then it's to the

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[nathan_amaral]: west of kanya then you have

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[casey_]: okay

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[nathan_amaral]: tanzaniit's just they re all kind of
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[casey_]: so

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[nathan_amaral]: victoria

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[casey_]: it's so it's like south east

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[nathan_amaral]: south yeah it's in the south

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[nathan_amaral]: south east africa yeah exactly very warm
climate not not hot climate most people think

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[nathan_amaral]: like oh isn't it so hot there
no it's actually it doesn't get colder than

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[nathan_amaral]: sixty five in doesn't get hotter than
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[nathan_amaral]: on the

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[nathan_amaral]: equator

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[casey_]: where

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[nathan_amaral]: so it's really warm you

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[casey_]: tigers maybe tigers cheats

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[nathan_amaral]: you can definitely get all of that
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[nathan_amaral]: in animals that way but yes anybody
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anywhere you want to go and then i

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i'm like oh

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what's

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it's one but man i'm totally enamored with

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[casey_]: everything from the beautiful island area where
your parents are from

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[casey_]: again but there's a lot of people
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[casey_]: and you know maybe to see bourbon
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[casey_]: it's just regular life and i'm sure
it's the same but but

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[casey_]: you you talk you kind of dove
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[casey_]: and the fact that you were employed
by somebody that helped them raise cap

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things that that our listeners are always asking

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talk let's walk through a little bit about

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[casey_]: there's always the point of hey would
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[nathan_amaral]: okay

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[casey_]: but where you find did you find
the people and how did that

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[nathan_amaral]: that's a great question actually i learned
capital rising all from david lyndall actually david

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[nathan_amaral]: lyndall like i said earlier he was
my previous boss and he's still a good

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[nathan_amaral]: friend i started working with him when
he had three thousand apartment units i think

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something this was a good number of years

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[nathan_amaral]: he's in boston yeah

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[nathan_amaral]: the boston area and one of the
things he taught me because i was raising

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and then i worked in his education company

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[nathan_amaral]: but one of the things he taught
me was consistency and i can give you

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[nathan_amaral]: the same phrase that taught that he
taught me and that i still use to

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[nathan_amaral]: this day to raise capital for my
own deals um he said one you need

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[nathan_amaral]: to be consistent you need to contact
at least two people every day

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[nathan_amaral]: and that doesn't mean you're talking to
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[nathan_amaral]: or deals you're just checking on people
and when when you when you get when

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[nathan_amaral]: you check on people and you have
care and you care about their life a

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[nathan_amaral]: little bit about what's going on with
them they're going to care about what's going

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[nathan_amaral]: on with you and the idea is
when someone asks about you you should have

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not talking about all the bad things that

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stock market out of it talk about your

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[nathan_amaral]: opportunity the way to bring up the
opportunity is simply like this you never there's

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[nathan_amaral]: like a rule and the rule is
never ask someone directly for money so that's

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[nathan_amaral]: the first thing you never ask someone
directly like hey are you are you into

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[nathan_amaral]: it in investing in this opportunity or
you you don't do that because you leave

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[nathan_amaral]: out a very important element yea and
that is fear of missing out thoma and

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[nathan_amaral]: what happens psychologically is when you ask
them if they know someone say you know

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[nathan_amaral]: do you happen to know someone who'd
be interested in making anywhere between whatever six

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[nathan_amaral]: percent or ten percent whatever your your
range is on um secured by real estate

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[nathan_amaral]: right so you've got to come up
with your phrase but you always want to

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[nathan_amaral]: use that magic goal part which is
do you know someone and when someone when

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i'm interested you just want to act and

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[nathan_amaral]: say oh what part of what i
said interested you right so now now you

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como is kicking in because you actually asked

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[nathan_amaral]: for someone else not them and when
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you ask them a few more questions about

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[nathan_amaral]: you know their capital and what the
where's their money like what are you doing

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[nathan_amaral]: what are you doing with your investment
you know are you in an i r

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[nathan_amaral]: a re you in the bit coin
whatever you're doing and that kind of starts

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[nathan_amaral]: the conversation and the important thing and
to know is it may not be them

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that referal is what you work off of

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[nathan_amaral]: a lot of people when i teach
them either how to raise money or talk

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[nathan_amaral]: them about raising money the reality is
they'll think of their closest friends relatives like

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[nathan_amaral]: who has money but it's not that
list you're actually building off that list so

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[nathan_amaral]: you make a list of the people
that you have in your life of course

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[nathan_amaral]: and then you you connect

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[nathan_amaral]: with them to get their connections i
think once you follow that principle it can

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[nathan_amaral]: give you an endless supply of contact
that has worked very well for myself and

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[nathan_amaral]: i know david lyndall teaches that on
a regular basis and it's worked for many

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[nathan_amaral]: people but if you can follow those
rules i guess per se that really has

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[casey_]: so

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[nathan_amaral]: he

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[casey_]: let's go let's go pre so a
lot of people are trying to figure out

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to

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[nathan_amaral]: okay sure yeah

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[casey_]: the people to present the phomo to

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[casey_]: where where were these

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[casey_]: people that like registered through content on
line were these people that went traffic that

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[casey_]: you drove to the web site

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[casey_]: i'm sorry that he drove to the
website

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[casey_]: or or how did how did the
what was the origination of these individuals

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[nathan_amaral]: sure so that's a good question because
i think most of the time you know

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[nathan_amaral]: people sometimes look too far out rather
than looking in in what they currently have

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[nathan_amaral]: i'll give an example when we were
raising capital we we contacted like you know

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[nathan_amaral]: even if someone's starting out doing this
you could contact someone lo who owns a

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[nathan_amaral]: local business or a local franchise maybe
there's someone you know that you visit their

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[casey_]: oh

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[nathan_amaral]: restaurant in a regular bit so um
and you have friends who have businesses that's

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[nathan_amaral]: a good place to start because you're
really looking to tap into other people's network

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[nathan_amaral]: some people joining rotary because

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[casey_]: yeah

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[nathan_amaral]: it's a trusted group of individuals some
people join the cal you know i started

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[nathan_amaral]: golfing three years ago just to expand
my circles i've also a yacht club so

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[nathan_amaral]: maybe remember like if you're around people
who are high net worth individuals or high

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[nathan_amaral]: or high income owners the conversation and
the activity they do are going to be

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[nathan_amaral]: a little bit different so they may
not be something you're currently doing maybe it'something

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[nathan_amaral]: you can learn but you can start
net working and i think that's a really

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[nathan_amaral]: important thing is you know net working
private

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[casey_]: and everybody

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[nathan_amaral]: raising private

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[casey_]: forgets that everybody

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[casey_]: forgets that everybody comes in and sits
down and they hit that published button on

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[casey_]: their facebook adds and they're like oh
damn it's been a week and i haven't

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[casey_]: gotten haven't gotten any money and

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[casey_]: i'm like okay how do you know
these people well i ran in at

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[casey_]: m

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[nathan_amaral]: i don't know i've never ran as
for raising private equity and i know it's

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[nathan_amaral]: more duable now than ever before since
the job's act but i will say this

460
00:13:31,864 --> 00:13:36,672
[nathan_amaral]: i think at the end of the
day even if i've been spaned so many

461
00:13:36,753 --> 00:13:41,701
[nathan_amaral]: times for opportunities but i wouldn't even
consider those because i don't know the person

462
00:13:41,801 --> 00:13:45,768
[nathan_amaral]: that i mean raising private capital is
all about trust at the end of the

463
00:13:45,808 --> 00:13:49,883
[nathan_amaral]: day you got know the person that
you're working with your partnering with you know

464
00:13:49,923 --> 00:13:50,887
[nathan_amaral]: i think that's really important

465
00:13:53,037 --> 00:13:56,483
[casey_]: and that whole element of trust man
that's

466
00:13:56,351 --> 00:13:56,513
[nathan_amaral]: right

467
00:13:56,663 --> 00:13:57,865
[casey_]: so vital

468
00:13:58,318 --> 00:13:58,460
[nathan_amaral]: yeah

469
00:13:58,706 --> 00:14:02,312
[casey_]: to every degree of this entire business

470
00:14:02,983 --> 00:14:03,510
[nathan_amaral]: hm

471
00:14:03,414 --> 00:14:13,254
[casey_]: and people i think sometimes people they
know they trust theirselves so they can't understand

472
00:14:13,614 --> 00:14:17,974
[casey_]: why that trust can't be duplicated immediately

473
00:14:18,451 --> 00:14:18,613
[nathan_amaral]: yeah

474
00:14:18,687 --> 00:14:20,314
[casey_]: like hey nathan i

475
00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:20,382
[nathan_amaral]: ye

476
00:14:20,395 --> 00:14:22,082
[casey_]: just met you don't you trust me

477
00:14:22,453 --> 00:14:23,096
[nathan_amaral]: no no no

478
00:14:23,306 --> 00:14:26,211
[casey_]: i mean are you going to say
hey nathan are you gonna send me fifty

479
00:14:26,252 --> 00:14:26,572
[casey_]: ko

480
00:14:27,211 --> 00:14:27,392
[nathan_amaral]: right

481
00:14:27,273 --> 00:14:27,474
[casey_]: i mean

482
00:14:27,453 --> 00:14:27,775
[nathan_amaral]: it takes

483
00:14:27,574 --> 00:14:27,834
[casey_]: come on

484
00:14:27,895 --> 00:14:29,264
[nathan_amaral]: time it takes time

485
00:14:29,518 --> 00:14:31,123
[casey_]: it's going to be it's a good
investment though

486
00:14:31,580 --> 00:14:31,762
[nathan_amaral]: yeah

487
00:14:32,436 --> 00:14:36,384
[casey_]: i mean i need it's going to
yield eight per cent and and come on

488
00:14:36,765 --> 00:14:37,106
[casey_]: just send

489
00:14:37,070 --> 00:14:37,212
[nathan_amaral]: yeah

490
00:14:37,206 --> 00:14:37,888
[casey_]: it please

491
00:14:37,799 --> 00:14:37,940
[nathan_amaral]: yeah

492
00:14:38,629 --> 00:14:44,537
[casey_]: and it's like you know in that
whole that whole vim is just screwy

493
00:14:45,156 --> 00:14:45,298
[nathan_amaral]: yeah

494
00:14:45,219 --> 00:14:48,911
[casey_]: and then you come off and then
they wonder because an one thing one reason

495
00:14:49,513 --> 00:14:53,781
[casey_]: and again i know this is probably
part of the discussion that maybe you're you

496
00:14:53,821 --> 00:14:59,432
[casey_]: were expecting or not but i want
to have it um the idea that so

497
00:14:59,632 --> 00:15:02,774
[casey_]: so people have this

498
00:15:02,821 --> 00:15:03,480
[nathan_amaral]: yeah

499
00:15:03,766 --> 00:15:06,471
[casey_]: apprehension about car shopping because of the

500
00:15:06,414 --> 00:15:06,455
[nathan_amaral]: m

501
00:15:06,511 --> 00:15:07,673
[casey_]: car salesman right

502
00:15:07,582 --> 00:15:08,451
[nathan_amaral]: right right right right

503
00:15:09,446 --> 00:15:12,511
[casey_]: and why do we not like quote
unquote

504
00:15:12,330 --> 00:15:12,511
[nathan_amaral]: oh

505
00:15:12,591 --> 00:15:13,533
[casey_]: the car salesman

506
00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:14,082
[nathan_amaral]: right

507
00:15:14,434 --> 00:15:20,304
[casey_]: and it's because the car salesman has
thirty seconds at

508
00:15:20,544 --> 00:15:20,565
[nathan_amaral]: h

509
00:15:20,725 --> 00:15:21,065
[casey_]: best

510
00:15:21,519 --> 00:15:21,540
[nathan_amaral]: m

511
00:15:22,268 --> 00:15:24,322
[casey_]: to get you to know like and
trust him

512
00:15:24,369 --> 00:15:25,163
[nathan_amaral]: m yeah

513
00:15:25,517 --> 00:15:31,839
[casey_]: there's not a script anywhere on this
planet that is going to fully work in

514
00:15:31,939 --> 00:15:33,321
[casey_]: thirty seconds and these

515
00:15:33,660 --> 00:15:34,440
[nathan_amaral]: yeah

516
00:15:33,661 --> 00:15:40,629
[casey_]: these these guys put i say these
guys ladies whoever in the in the

517
00:15:40,725 --> 00:15:40,808
[nathan_amaral]: ah

518
00:15:41,189 --> 00:15:42,491
[casey_]: in the upper end of

519
00:15:42,550 --> 00:15:42,692
[nathan_amaral]: yeah

520
00:15:42,551 --> 00:15:43,972
[casey_]: the car industry they're working

521
00:15:44,012 --> 00:15:44,194
[nathan_amaral]: right

522
00:15:44,052 --> 00:15:44,592
[casey_]: on numbers

523
00:15:45,201 --> 00:15:45,384
[nathan_amaral]: right

524
00:15:45,233 --> 00:15:52,242
[casey_]: the salesman has the unfortunate task of
moving somebody from one point to another

525
00:15:51,939 --> 00:15:51,960
[nathan_amaral]: m

526
00:15:52,743 --> 00:15:53,104
[casey_]: in thirty

527
00:15:52,955 --> 00:15:52,976
[nathan_amaral]: m

528
00:15:53,164 --> 00:15:53,505
[casey_]: seconds

529
00:15:54,277 --> 00:15:54,439
[nathan_amaral]: right

530
00:15:54,859 --> 00:15:55,241
[casey_]: and so

531
00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:55,766
[nathan_amaral]: oh

532
00:15:56,496 --> 00:15:59,121
[casey_]: i think that that's what leads to
the

533
00:15:59,250 --> 00:15:59,452
[nathan_amaral]: yeah

534
00:15:59,261 --> 00:16:05,251
[casey_]: apprehension of saying i don't even want
to drive down to the car lock because

535
00:16:05,291 --> 00:16:05,472
[casey_]: i don't

536
00:16:05,490 --> 00:16:05,650
[nathan_amaral]: yeah

537
00:16:05,512 --> 00:16:06,134
[casey_]: want to deal with it

538
00:16:06,634 --> 00:16:06,814
[nathan_amaral]: true

539
00:16:07,236 --> 00:16:07,656
[casey_]: and i'm just

540
00:16:07,517 --> 00:16:07,657
[nathan_amaral]: yeah

541
00:16:07,736 --> 00:16:11,743
[casey_]: like and it's so amazing to me
that these car dealers as big

542
00:16:11,790 --> 00:16:11,975
[nathan_amaral]: ye

543
00:16:11,803 --> 00:16:12,765
[casey_]: and pretty and beautiful

544
00:16:12,540 --> 00:16:12,682
[nathan_amaral]: oh

545
00:16:12,845 --> 00:16:17,753
[casey_]: and everything as they build them and
make them they can't figure that one part

546
00:16:18,054 --> 00:16:20,928
[casey_]: out where hey m let's take care
of all

547
00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:21,510
[nathan_amaral]: yeah

548
00:16:20,989 --> 00:16:23,154
[casey_]: of these other things so the winsami
shows up here

549
00:16:23,041 --> 00:16:24,503
[nathan_amaral]: ah m

550
00:16:24,526 --> 00:16:25,267
[casey_]: they're ready they

551
00:16:25,209 --> 00:16:25,230
[nathan_amaral]: m

552
00:16:25,327 --> 00:16:25,768
[casey_]: know like an

553
00:16:25,714 --> 00:16:25,918
[nathan_amaral]: right

554
00:16:25,808 --> 00:16:26,549
[casey_]: trust us but anyway

555
00:16:26,550 --> 00:16:26,691
[nathan_amaral]: yeah

556
00:16:26,910 --> 00:16:31,778
[casey_]: so um so we start with you
know net working net working in order to

557
00:16:31,858 --> 00:16:35,804
[casey_]: build the no like and trust element
then as you move forward with the no

558
00:16:35,925 --> 00:16:41,672
[casey_]: like and trust element doing what you
said exactly what you said as far as

559
00:16:41,587 --> 00:16:41,708
[nathan_amaral]: yeah

560
00:16:42,133 --> 00:16:43,156
[casey_]: don't ask for money

561
00:16:43,410 --> 00:16:44,520
[nathan_amaral]: yeah

562
00:16:43,516 --> 00:16:48,857
[casey_]: hey i've got an investment opportunity coming
up i just wondered if you just wondered

563
00:16:48,897 --> 00:16:52,763
[casey_]: if maybe you had any friends in
the for instance i've got some some investors

564
00:16:52,803 --> 00:16:54,867
[casey_]: that are in the film industry right

565
00:16:55,434 --> 00:16:56,160
[nathan_amaral]: hm

566
00:16:55,468 --> 00:16:58,913
[casey_]: and i just so that's my go
to you know i know there and films

567
00:16:59,134 --> 00:17:02,021
[casey_]: i just wondered if maybe you had
anybody else that

568
00:17:02,433 --> 00:17:03,060
[nathan_amaral]: hm

569
00:17:02,542 --> 00:17:03,425
[casey_]: might be interested

570
00:17:03,180 --> 00:17:03,407
[nathan_amaral]: oh

571
00:17:03,485 --> 00:17:05,090
[casey_]: in looking at placed in some capital
here

572
00:17:05,260 --> 00:17:05,380
[nathan_amaral]: yeah

573
00:17:05,671 --> 00:17:08,179
[casey_]: in order to do this

574
00:17:08,370 --> 00:17:11,953
[nathan_amaral]: yeah and also there's like a lot
of people don't think about this but this

575
00:17:12,033 --> 00:17:15,276
[nathan_amaral]: is an element that you know david
taught us years earlier

576
00:17:15,848 --> 00:17:15,869
[casey_]: i

577
00:17:16,096 --> 00:17:18,378
[nathan_amaral]: i would say one of the things
is sometimes you have to go where the

578
00:17:18,658 --> 00:17:19,379
[nathan_amaral]: audience is

579
00:17:20,020 --> 00:17:20,266
[casey_]: okay

580
00:17:20,050 --> 00:17:23,395
[nathan_amaral]: so that could be the golf course
the yacht whatever but i'll give yo another

581
00:17:23,415 --> 00:17:27,362
[nathan_amaral]: example one of the things we went
to every year was the

582
00:17:27,586 --> 00:17:27,810
[casey_]: oh

583
00:17:28,003 --> 00:17:34,113
[nathan_amaral]: the pedatrix expo for pdatritions okay and
this is where there's a big x po

584
00:17:34,313 --> 00:17:39,462
[nathan_amaral]: and you're just hanging out with who
doctors right patrician

585
00:17:38,806 --> 00:17:39,115
[casey_]: yes

586
00:17:39,602 --> 00:17:43,368
[nathan_amaral]: so guess what those are high net
worth individuals looking to place capital sometimes for

587
00:17:43,449 --> 00:17:47,395
[nathan_amaral]: tax purpose is you have to be
prepared for that audience there's

588
00:17:47,458 --> 00:17:47,679
[casey_]: well

589
00:17:47,795 --> 00:17:47,976
[nathan_amaral]: there's

590
00:17:47,860 --> 00:17:47,920
[casey_]: in

591
00:17:48,056 --> 00:17:48,216
[nathan_amaral]: many

592
00:17:49,476 --> 00:17:50,217
[casey_]: the thing i like

593
00:17:50,244 --> 00:17:50,265
[nathan_amaral]: i

594
00:17:50,297 --> 00:17:53,200
[casey_]: about doctors and pediatricians and those

595
00:17:53,310 --> 00:17:54,330
[nathan_amaral]: okay

596
00:17:53,721 --> 00:17:55,183
[casey_]: those kinds of audiences

597
00:17:56,028 --> 00:17:56,940
[nathan_amaral]: hm

598
00:17:56,264 --> 00:17:56,624
[casey_]: is

599
00:17:57,630 --> 00:17:58,260
[nathan_amaral]: yeah

600
00:17:58,196 --> 00:18:02,919
[casey_]: they're typically not the guys that want
control and i say

601
00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:02,962
[nathan_amaral]: correct

602
00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:11,167
[casey_]: that because put two lines in one
den and things things could

603
00:18:11,023 --> 00:18:11,670
[nathan_amaral]: hm

604
00:18:11,227 --> 00:18:13,310
[casey_]: get monkey real quick right

605
00:18:13,371 --> 00:18:13,939
[nathan_amaral]: yeah yeah

606
00:18:14,392 --> 00:18:16,976
[casey_]: and when you take some one that
says hey man i'm not just saying that

607
00:18:16,996 --> 00:18:19,100
[casey_]: they just instantly write you checked because
they met

608
00:18:19,170 --> 00:18:19,860
[nathan_amaral]: yeah

609
00:18:19,180 --> 00:18:20,722
[casey_]: and now and liked and whatever

610
00:18:20,891 --> 00:18:21,353
[nathan_amaral]: right right

611
00:18:21,464 --> 00:18:27,196
[casey_]: i'm saying that they into a deal
because they're off saving lives or doing surgeries

612
00:18:27,276 --> 00:18:29,020
[casey_]: or fixing the world and

613
00:18:28,981 --> 00:18:29,124
[nathan_amaral]: yeah

614
00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:30,684
[casey_]: they're like hey man i'm making this
money

615
00:18:31,140 --> 00:18:31,830
[nathan_amaral]: yeah

616
00:18:31,406 --> 00:18:33,453
[casey_]: you take care of it put it
over here

617
00:18:34,103 --> 00:18:34,650
[nathan_amaral]: hm

618
00:18:34,486 --> 00:18:36,830
[casey_]: let's make something happen and

619
00:18:36,741 --> 00:18:36,922
[nathan_amaral]: right

620
00:18:36,950 --> 00:18:39,374
[casey_]: so it just you're exactly

621
00:18:39,390 --> 00:18:40,140
[nathan_amaral]: yeah

622
00:18:39,514 --> 00:18:40,496
[casey_]: right and i don't mean

623
00:18:40,433 --> 00:18:40,494
[nathan_amaral]: hm

624
00:18:40,736 --> 00:18:42,900
[casey_]: i know you were just using them
as an example but

625
00:18:43,140 --> 00:18:44,310
[nathan_amaral]: yeah

626
00:18:43,982 --> 00:18:49,966
[casey_]: it's really important to understand that that
that you know whether you're after retail money

627
00:18:50,649 --> 00:18:51,030
[casey_]: or whether

628
00:18:50,793 --> 00:18:51,480
[nathan_amaral]: hm

629
00:18:51,070 --> 00:18:55,600
[casey_]: you're after you know industry money or
like

630
00:18:57,651 --> 00:18:58,320
[nathan_amaral]: institutions

631
00:18:58,726 --> 00:19:01,045
[casey_]: institutional money yeah

632
00:19:00,419 --> 00:19:00,580
[nathan_amaral]: yeah

633
00:19:01,976 --> 00:19:05,332
[casey_]: and so anyway but you're right go
where the audience is

634
00:19:05,590 --> 00:19:06,331
[nathan_amaral]: yeah yeah

635
00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:06,461
[casey_]: if

636
00:19:07,192 --> 00:19:10,337
[nathan_amaral]: the best thing to do that is
put your face there you know like shake

637
00:19:10,378 --> 00:19:14,504
[nathan_amaral]: hands meet people you know or this
day's were pounding it instead of shaking hands

638
00:19:14,565 --> 00:19:15,386
[nathan_amaral]: but whatever you know

639
00:19:15,316 --> 00:19:15,520
[casey_]: oh

640
00:19:15,526 --> 00:19:19,494
[nathan_amaral]: get get in around those tight people
i'll give an example i have a buddy

641
00:19:19,534 --> 00:19:23,584
[nathan_amaral]: of mine and he raises funds and
all he does is he raises

642
00:19:23,356 --> 00:19:23,579
[casey_]: oh

643
00:19:23,644 --> 00:19:31,018
[nathan_amaral]: funds from developers computer code or developers
because they're high net worth individuals they typically

644
00:19:31,058 --> 00:19:32,139
[nathan_amaral]: make over fifty hundred

645
00:19:32,778 --> 00:19:32,839
[casey_]: to

646
00:19:32,961 --> 00:19:39,512
[nathan_amaral]: six figures a year and they sometimes
have these companies goes and he gets you

647
00:19:39,552 --> 00:19:45,261
[nathan_amaral]: know goes in there as a financial
you know adviser and he has meetings with

648
00:19:45,281 --> 00:19:45,462
[nathan_amaral]: them he

649
00:19:45,466 --> 00:19:45,788
[casey_]: yes

650
00:19:45,522 --> 00:19:49,388
[nathan_amaral]: does little meetings like five ten people
and shows them where they can park their

651
00:19:49,448 --> 00:19:50,411
[nathan_amaral]: funds for for

652
00:19:50,446 --> 00:19:50,647
[casey_]: oh

653
00:19:50,592 --> 00:19:51,557
[nathan_amaral]: transactions for deals

654
00:19:51,826 --> 00:19:52,090
[casey_]: yeah

655
00:19:52,190 --> 00:19:55,555
[nathan_amaral]: and the rate of return they're gonna
get compared to for example the stock market

656
00:19:55,675 --> 00:19:59,842
[nathan_amaral]: and now is a great time to
be doing these presentations or these networking because

657
00:20:00,383 --> 00:20:01,806
[nathan_amaral]: the stock market is at

658
00:20:01,847 --> 00:20:02,572
[casey_]: he

659
00:20:02,266 --> 00:20:06,594
[nathan_amaral]: all like really low right so we
have read everywhere in the stock market people

660
00:20:06,654 --> 00:20:09,919
[nathan_amaral]: are like looking at their statements they're
really nervous and lord and like when is

661
00:20:09,959 --> 00:20:13,505
[nathan_amaral]: it goin come back and here you
are you have an opportunity with real estate

662
00:20:13,765 --> 00:20:19,315
[nathan_amaral]: as an increased opportunity it's just been
going up this for a while and that's

663
00:20:19,375 --> 00:20:23,782
[nathan_amaral]: a great opportunity to start the conversation
and everybody is talking about it right now

664
00:20:23,862 --> 00:20:28,109
[nathan_amaral]: you know more than more than normal
so the conversations can come up a lot

665
00:20:28,270 --> 00:20:29,256
[nathan_amaral]: easier when you're networking

666
00:20:31,087 --> 00:20:34,413
[casey_]: yeah yeah it makes sense makes perfect
sense so

667
00:20:34,352 --> 00:20:35,040
[nathan_amaral]: hm

668
00:20:34,834 --> 00:20:36,797
[casey_]: all right well let's talk a little
bit about what

669
00:20:36,750 --> 00:20:37,680
[nathan_amaral]: yeah

670
00:20:36,837 --> 00:20:38,581
[casey_]: you've got going on today what

671
00:20:38,862 --> 00:20:39,510
[nathan_amaral]: hm

672
00:20:38,901 --> 00:20:42,356
[casey_]: is the what is

673
00:20:42,612 --> 00:20:42,736
[nathan_amaral]: eh

674
00:20:43,746 --> 00:20:43,866
[casey_]: the

675
00:20:44,850 --> 00:20:45,660
[nathan_amaral]: oh

676
00:20:46,090 --> 00:20:49,315
[casey_]: landscape look like and as far as
your travels go how

677
00:20:49,271 --> 00:20:49,454
[nathan_amaral]: yeah

678
00:20:49,355 --> 00:20:51,619
[casey_]: do you piece all of that together
because i know we talked a little bit

679
00:20:51,699 --> 00:20:53,322
[casey_]: about senior living and

680
00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:53,442
[nathan_amaral]: sure

681
00:20:53,362 --> 00:20:54,223
[casey_]: some other things

682
00:20:54,540 --> 00:20:59,216
[nathan_amaral]: yeah so like what am i doing
like currently like investment with

683
00:20:59,827 --> 00:20:59,991
[casey_]: yeah

684
00:21:00,780 --> 00:21:06,369
[nathan_amaral]: sure yeah well currently i'm doing because
i'm living a lot remotely i do a

685
00:21:06,409 --> 00:21:11,598
[nathan_amaral]: bunch of stuff remoli i do flip
a lot of properties remotely i have you

686
00:21:11,638 --> 00:21:16,667
[nathan_amaral]: know a team of people in the
united states small team nothing huge i do

687
00:21:16,747 --> 00:21:20,996
[nathan_amaral]: have some senior living project here on
this island because of the demographics and i

688
00:21:21,056 --> 00:21:25,131
[nathan_amaral]: noticed there was a demand so initially
i was looking at hotels and i made

689
00:21:25,151 --> 00:21:30,219
[nathan_amaral]: a few offers on hotels and then
that project changed because we heard about some

690
00:21:30,300 --> 00:21:34,321
[nathan_amaral]: news and the demographics there was like
a huge waiting list seniors to get into

691
00:21:34,421 --> 00:21:35,804
[nathan_amaral]: assisted living so

692
00:21:36,030 --> 00:21:36,050
[casey_]: a

693
00:21:36,044 --> 00:21:40,171
[nathan_amaral]: that was a pretty you know a
slice of a pie to get involved in

694
00:21:40,211 --> 00:21:46,962
[nathan_amaral]: that opportunity and then in uganda pretty
much property management property management a little bit

695
00:21:47,002 --> 00:21:51,450
[nathan_amaral]: of land purchasing land what not but
mostly property management we have about i think

696
00:21:51,610 --> 00:21:57,380
[nathan_amaral]: twenty or eighteen eighteen units under management
right now it's been kind of dot you

697
00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:01,206
[nathan_amaral]: need a lot of that out but
that's that's pretty much what we got going

698
00:22:01,246 --> 00:22:04,972
[nathan_amaral]: over there we got property management in
three different countries because we got short term

699
00:22:05,053 --> 00:22:11,808
[nathan_amaral]: rentals in the u s portugal and
and in so those are the three countries

700
00:22:11,848 --> 00:22:13,514
[nathan_amaral]: that i pretty much operate in at

701
00:22:13,816 --> 00:22:14,000
[casey_]: yes

702
00:22:13,936 --> 00:22:14,538
[nathan_amaral]: this point of time

703
00:22:15,316 --> 00:22:20,604
[casey_]: yeah yeah and that's and that's you
know having the team part of that element

704
00:22:20,644 --> 00:22:23,409
[casey_]: of course i'm sure is certainly more
important to you than

705
00:22:23,304 --> 00:22:23,465
[nathan_amaral]: yeah

706
00:22:23,950 --> 00:22:25,753
[casey_]: maybe even to a lot of other
people but

707
00:22:25,860 --> 00:22:25,880
[nathan_amaral]: m

708
00:22:26,394 --> 00:22:28,337
[casey_]: it's far important to you to have
your

709
00:22:28,260 --> 00:22:28,525
[nathan_amaral]: yeah

710
00:22:28,397 --> 00:22:29,800
[casey_]: team and somebody you trust and so

711
00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:30,081
[nathan_amaral]: yeah

712
00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:31,463
[casey_]: on and so forth so um

713
00:22:31,370 --> 00:22:32,610
[nathan_amaral]: yeah

714
00:22:32,204 --> 00:22:33,346
[casey_]: the senior citizens

715
00:22:34,175 --> 00:22:34,890
[nathan_amaral]: hm

716
00:22:35,249 --> 00:22:36,912
[casey_]: uh facility that you have there

717
00:22:37,264 --> 00:22:37,406
[nathan_amaral]: yeah

718
00:22:37,473 --> 00:22:42,708
[casey_]: what talk to us a little bit
out did you raise money for that and

719
00:22:42,722 --> 00:22:42,863
[nathan_amaral]: yeah

720
00:22:42,748 --> 00:22:46,572
[casey_]: then did you put all that together
as like a indication or just a l

721
00:22:46,712 --> 00:22:47,293
[casey_]: l c deal where

722
00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:47,300
[nathan_amaral]: m

723
00:22:47,333 --> 00:22:48,814
[casey_]: you just had an investor to or

724
00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:52,986
[nathan_amaral]: yeah so actually it started off as
the idea was to do as indication that

725
00:22:53,026 --> 00:22:56,472
[nathan_amaral]: was their first initial thing and then
when i started going about six months into

726
00:22:56,512 --> 00:23:00,018
[nathan_amaral]: the deal because things here moved a
little bit slower six months you could probably

727
00:23:00,058 --> 00:23:02,843
[nathan_amaral]: have the whole deal in the united
states but here things will move a lot

728
00:23:02,883 --> 00:23:10,476
[nathan_amaral]: slower so it went from a sindication
de to just small investor pool and just

729
00:23:10,696 --> 00:23:15,023
[nathan_amaral]: very simple l c i mean that's
basically or an entity they don't have l

730
00:23:15,063 --> 00:23:21,674
[nathan_amaral]: c here particularly but just a small
you know partnership and got the deal funded

731
00:23:22,255 --> 00:23:29,684
[nathan_amaral]: um and enclosed not on time because
literally you know it was interesting the property

732
00:23:29,724 --> 00:23:38,583
[nathan_amaral]: was under contract in december twenty twenty
nineteen and covid hit so

733
00:23:38,576 --> 00:23:38,718
[casey_]: yeah

734
00:23:39,264 --> 00:23:43,752
[nathan_amaral]: and here everything got locked down everybody
was in their homes for a few months

735
00:23:44,613 --> 00:23:46,416
[nathan_amaral]: so everything just stopped you know

736
00:23:46,626 --> 00:23:46,768
[casey_]: yes

737
00:23:46,757 --> 00:23:52,186
[nathan_amaral]: and picking all that up again raising
capital during that time was not easy like

738
00:23:52,266 --> 00:23:52,409
[casey_]: yeah

739
00:23:52,947 --> 00:23:57,855
[nathan_amaral]: that was not easy yeah so i
remember my wife telling me she's like she's

740
00:23:57,895 --> 00:24:00,780
[nathan_amaral]: like i've never seen you so stressed
before i'm like this is probably and the

741
00:24:00,981 --> 00:24:04,909
[nathan_amaral]: most stressful deal and it hasn't even
been my biggest deal but it was very

742
00:24:05,009 --> 00:24:11,310
[nathan_amaral]: stressful time covidandraising capital during that time
was not easy yeah

743
00:24:11,948 --> 00:24:14,554
[casey_]: i can't imagine that anything during that
time

744
00:24:14,610 --> 00:24:14,933
[nathan_amaral]: oh

745
00:24:14,895 --> 00:24:17,501
[casey_]: you know i know how tough it
was here in the united states

746
00:24:17,985 --> 00:24:18,840
[nathan_amaral]: h m

747
00:24:19,636 --> 00:24:25,025
[casey_]: i say tough because i mean we
we it just was like man you couldn't

748
00:24:25,065 --> 00:24:27,809
[casey_]: even go by a toilet seat you
couldn't even go buy

749
00:24:27,741 --> 00:24:27,882
[nathan_amaral]: yeah

750
00:24:28,851 --> 00:24:28,971
[casey_]: new

751
00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:29,820
[nathan_amaral]: yeah

752
00:24:29,272 --> 00:24:30,274
[casey_]: door handles for a

753
00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:30,422
[nathan_amaral]: yeah

754
00:24:30,534 --> 00:24:32,337
[casey_]: project you were working on

755
00:24:32,724 --> 00:24:33,271
[nathan_amaral]: exactly

756
00:24:32,818 --> 00:24:34,661
[casey_]: it was just such a such a
mess but

757
00:24:35,150 --> 00:24:35,291
[nathan_amaral]: yeah

758
00:24:35,262 --> 00:24:39,008
[casey_]: um and then especially on some of
those smaller islands i'm sure that they were

759
00:24:39,068 --> 00:24:40,671
[casey_]: everybody was just freaking out because

760
00:24:40,752 --> 00:24:40,892
[nathan_amaral]: yeah

761
00:24:41,152 --> 00:24:43,466
[casey_]: i'm sure health care is okay but
i'm

762
00:24:43,505 --> 00:24:43,566
[nathan_amaral]: m

763
00:24:43,526 --> 00:24:44,449
[casey_]: sure you probably have

764
00:24:44,379 --> 00:24:44,400
[nathan_amaral]: m

765
00:24:44,469 --> 00:24:45,291
[casey_]: to go to the mainland

766
00:24:45,030 --> 00:24:46,440
[nathan_amaral]: oh

767
00:24:45,412 --> 00:24:46,054
[casey_]: right to get

768
00:24:46,790 --> 00:24:47,190
[nathan_amaral]: well now

769
00:24:47,131 --> 00:24:47,416
[casey_]: big

770
00:24:47,250 --> 00:24:48,412
[nathan_amaral]: we we had

771
00:24:48,331 --> 00:24:48,393
[casey_]: ah

772
00:24:48,472 --> 00:24:52,940
[nathan_amaral]: a hoswe have a hospital here and
then they just finished their second hospital but

773
00:24:53,340 --> 00:24:55,404
[nathan_amaral]: the first one is a public hospital
which is pretty

774
00:24:55,396 --> 00:24:55,558
[casey_]: okay

775
00:24:55,444 --> 00:24:57,307
[nathan_amaral]: common in europe for public health

776
00:24:57,936 --> 00:24:58,100
[casey_]: yeah

777
00:24:58,289 --> 00:25:03,738
[nathan_amaral]: and then we at first private hospital
which wasn't even finished yet so the primary

778
00:25:03,818 --> 00:25:08,566
[nathan_amaral]: hospital was packed out of people like
there was people everywhere so what they even

779
00:25:08,626 --> 00:25:12,212
[nathan_amaral]: had people in the hall so what
they did was they did um to keep

780
00:25:12,272 --> 00:25:19,163
[nathan_amaral]: people out of the hospital they did
a forced mandatory lock lock down so people

781
00:25:19,244 --> 00:25:22,749
[nathan_amaral]: couldn't leave their homes for two months
you know they could go right outside of

782
00:25:22,910 --> 00:25:26,655
[nathan_amaral]: house walk around and go back in
but they could not go down town they

783
00:25:26,695 --> 00:25:29,119
[nathan_amaral]: could yeah it was like that for
two months

784
00:25:29,806 --> 00:25:29,966
[casey_]: wow

785
00:25:30,150 --> 00:25:30,692
[nathan_amaral]: just because

786
00:25:30,649 --> 00:25:30,789
[casey_]: in

787
00:25:31,433 --> 00:25:33,317
[nathan_amaral]: to keep people out of the hospitals

788
00:25:34,576 --> 00:25:34,776
[casey_]: wow

789
00:25:34,672 --> 00:25:34,734
[nathan_amaral]: oh

790
00:25:35,437 --> 00:25:36,259
[casey_]: wow wow wow

791
00:25:36,470 --> 00:25:36,612
[nathan_amaral]: yeah

792
00:25:36,499 --> 00:25:36,980
[casey_]: it was just

793
00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:38,400
[nathan_amaral]: yeah

794
00:25:38,041 --> 00:25:41,627
[casey_]: you know it was it was such
a crazy crazy time so anyway all

795
00:25:41,665 --> 00:25:42,390
[nathan_amaral]: hm

796
00:25:41,668 --> 00:25:43,130
[casey_]: right well listen nathan i want to
thank

797
00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:43,280
[nathan_amaral]: yeah

798
00:25:43,170 --> 00:25:44,733
[casey_]: you first of all for being with
us today

799
00:25:44,585 --> 00:25:44,726
[nathan_amaral]: yeah

800
00:25:45,714 --> 00:25:50,469
[casey_]: the second secondly we ask a couple
of questions to everybody that comes on the

801
00:25:50,509 --> 00:25:50,709
[casey_]: show

802
00:25:51,010 --> 00:25:51,131
[nathan_amaral]: sure

803
00:25:51,150 --> 00:25:53,514
[casey_]: there's no right or wrong answer but
it's just a way for us to get

804
00:25:53,574 --> 00:25:56,319
[casey_]: an idea of who you are and
what you're about and so on so

805
00:25:56,790 --> 00:25:56,810
[nathan_amaral]: m

806
00:25:56,799 --> 00:26:01,372
[casey_]: what is the best book that you
have recently read currently reading

807
00:26:02,291 --> 00:26:07,322
[nathan_amaral]: the best book i've recently gone over
again is the twelve week year

808
00:26:08,087 --> 00:26:08,210
[casey_]: yep

809
00:26:08,605 --> 00:26:12,352
[nathan_amaral]: if you're looking at you know managing
your time better which

810
00:26:12,706 --> 00:26:12,828
[casey_]: yeah

811
00:26:12,832 --> 00:26:15,596
[nathan_amaral]: i've been recently having to do that
in the past few years but it's the

812
00:26:15,656 --> 00:26:18,319
[nathan_amaral]: twelve week year is a great rade
it's my second time raiding it

813
00:26:19,156 --> 00:26:19,738
[casey_]: awesome man

814
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:20,042
[nathan_amaral]: yep

815
00:26:20,381 --> 00:26:25,859
[casey_]: that's it's definitely one of those things
that that time management again it's the same

816
00:26:25,919 --> 00:26:27,461
[casey_]: as team management is so crucial

817
00:26:27,300 --> 00:26:27,320
[nathan_amaral]: m

818
00:26:28,102 --> 00:26:29,925
[casey_]: i'm the worst at time

819
00:26:29,791 --> 00:26:29,811
[nathan_amaral]: h

820
00:26:29,986 --> 00:26:30,947
[casey_]: management i just

821
00:26:30,819 --> 00:26:30,840
[nathan_amaral]: m

822
00:26:31,027 --> 00:26:34,173
[casey_]: tend to get carried away as my
listeners i'm sure

823
00:26:34,020 --> 00:26:35,534
[nathan_amaral]: uh

824
00:26:34,273 --> 00:26:38,760
[casey_]: are well aware i get on to
something and then tend to maybe you stay

825
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:41,785
[casey_]: on a little bit too long so
the second question again this is what i

826
00:26:41,845 --> 00:26:42,426
[casey_]: told you earlier

827
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:43,710
[nathan_amaral]: yeah

828
00:26:42,506 --> 00:26:46,313
[casey_]: in the episode what we're going to
ask was what is the best vacation or

829
00:26:46,373 --> 00:26:50,038
[casey_]: a dream vacation that you have either
taken or hope to take and again i

830
00:26:50,098 --> 00:26:50,959
[casey_]: know that's hard when

831
00:26:50,970 --> 00:26:51,151
[nathan_amaral]: oh

832
00:26:50,999 --> 00:26:52,661
[casey_]: a man lives or

833
00:26:52,943 --> 00:26:52,963
[nathan_amaral]: h

834
00:26:53,202 --> 00:26:53,922
[casey_]: spends as much

835
00:26:53,949 --> 00:26:53,970
[nathan_amaral]: h

836
00:26:53,962 --> 00:26:54,803
[casey_]: time there as you do

837
00:26:55,220 --> 00:27:00,665
[nathan_amaral]: yeah yeah and to answer that yeah
i don't even lay my life these days

838
00:27:00,705 --> 00:27:04,289
[nathan_amaral]: i don't even vacation any more like
the word vacation like oh take time off

839
00:27:04,349 --> 00:27:08,004
[nathan_amaral]: like i love what i do for
work and i just travel along the way

840
00:27:08,205 --> 00:27:08,305
[nathan_amaral]: so

841
00:27:08,858 --> 00:27:09,061
[casey_]: sure

842
00:27:09,387 --> 00:27:13,393
[nathan_amaral]: i would say the place i haven't
been yet that i really desire to go

843
00:27:13,513 --> 00:27:15,497
[nathan_amaral]: to is indonesia i want to get
over to molly

844
00:27:16,217 --> 00:27:16,361
[casey_]: yep

845
00:27:16,538 --> 00:27:21,717
[nathan_amaral]: and that's in south south asia yeah
so anything in that area want to get

846
00:27:21,757 --> 00:27:21,998
[nathan_amaral]: over there

847
00:27:22,446 --> 00:27:25,770
[casey_]: i agree and there's a couple areas
and i don't i'm not sure a lot

848
00:27:25,810 --> 00:27:29,895
[casey_]: of people know this there's a couple
areas in the southern philippines that are

849
00:27:29,895 --> 00:27:29,936
[nathan_amaral]: m

850
00:27:29,975 --> 00:27:35,213
[casey_]: just like i've looked at him on
line and they're just they're just absolutely spectacular

851
00:27:35,393 --> 00:27:35,553
[casey_]: like

852
00:27:35,483 --> 00:27:35,910
[nathan_amaral]: very true

853
00:27:35,834 --> 00:27:37,156
[casey_]: spectacular

854
00:27:37,261 --> 00:27:37,525
[nathan_amaral]: very

855
00:27:37,557 --> 00:27:38,238
[casey_]: capitalist

856
00:27:37,627 --> 00:27:37,810
[nathan_amaral]: true

857
00:27:38,558 --> 00:27:38,658
[casey_]: so

858
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:39,204
[nathan_amaral]: very true

859
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:42,705
[casey_]: anyway all right well nathan if the
listeners heard something that resonated with them

860
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:43,470
[nathan_amaral]: yeah

861
00:27:42,745 --> 00:27:45,115
[casey_]: and they like to possibly reach out
and get in touch with you what is

862
00:27:45,156 --> 00:27:46,542
[casey_]: the best way for them to do
that

863
00:27:46,991 --> 00:27:50,316
[nathan_amaral]: best way would probably just go to
like an email or just go to the

864
00:27:50,336 --> 00:27:57,789
[nathan_amaral]: website the website is fearless dash hyphen
fearless dash millionaire dot com or they could

865
00:27:57,829 --> 00:28:01,718
[nathan_amaral]: just shoot me an l at nathan
at vilas dash millionaire not come

866
00:28:02,536 --> 00:28:05,681
[casey_]: awesome man well listen thank you so
much for being on the show today we

867
00:28:06,002 --> 00:28:06,382
[casey_]: really

868
00:28:06,052 --> 00:28:06,092
[nathan_amaral]: or

869
00:28:06,422 --> 00:28:10,349
[casey_]: appreciate your taking time out of your
day to be on here and listeners if

870
00:28:10,389 --> 00:28:14,215
[casey_]: you like what you heard today head
on down and leave us a five star

871
00:28:14,416 --> 00:28:15,718
[casey_]: view and also type of

872
00:28:15,690 --> 00:28:16,650
[nathan_amaral]: yeah

873
00:28:15,838 --> 00:28:20,386
[casey_]: a review so that others might be
able to get an idea what we're about

874
00:28:20,506 --> 00:28:28,786
[casey_]: what they might hear from our show
and also hit smash bo pinky finger

875
00:28:28,950 --> 00:28:30,630
[nathan_amaral]: oh

876
00:28:29,527 --> 00:28:31,791
[casey_]: ear whatever that subscribe button please

877
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:31,900
[nathan_amaral]: yeah

878
00:28:32,412 --> 00:28:35,457
[casey_]: hit it wither with whatever appendage you
feel necessary

879
00:28:35,670 --> 00:28:35,912
[nathan_amaral]: uh

880
00:28:36,098 --> 00:28:40,125
[casey_]: and we certainly appreciate your taking your
time today for to listen to what we

881
00:28:40,205 --> 00:28:44,399
[casey_]: had a and i hope everybody has
a wonderful rest of the day thank you

882
00:28:44,439 --> 00:28:45,604
[casey_]: and nathan thank you again

883
00:28:46,420 --> 00:28:47,023
[nathan_amaral]: but ye