May 31, 2022

NFA Radical financial responsibility with Dr. Amanda Barrientez

NFA Radical financial responsibility with Dr. Amanda Barrientez

In this episode, I talk with Dr. Amanda Barrientez - known as "The Money Healer" - is the founder of NFA - No Fucking Around - Money is the host of the NFA Money YouTube Channel, and she’s been featured on over 100 podcasts. After going from food...

In this episode, I talk with Dr. Amanda Barrientez - known as "The Money Healer" - is the founder of NFA - No Fucking Around
- Money is the host of the NFA Money YouTube Channel, and she’s been featured on over 100 podcasts.
After going from food stamps to building a 6-figure business fast, Dr. Amanda’s been on a quest to teach entrepreneurs her 3-step NFA Money Formula™ so they can confidently attract easier money into their businesses with less stress and more joy. Check out her proven step-by-step formula at

She speaks with us about how she went from being on food stamps to making 6-figures using practical manifestation strategies that actually work.

Learn the money mindset you need to have to become an entrepreneur in this week's episode with the incredibly knowledgeable Dr. Amanda Barrientez!

I learned at a young age that people do not really care about you, they only care about what you can do for them. Then I got to thinking, how could I leverage that into helping me build a career. I said early on when I started selling real estate that I wanted to be the place where everyone came for information and I would sell real estate along the way. Well so far that has worked out really well, as I close in on 1 billion in real estate sold, I am proud to announce that I am just getting started. We are excited to roll forward to next year and the next and the next by providing the value people look for, by giving them information and helping them out when they need it, and selling a little real estate along the way. Let's learn together, yes together I want to learn from you as well.


Casey Brown  0:06  
Hey there, and welcome to today's episode of cash flow Pro, your daily real estate investing podcast and YouTube channel. I want to welcome everybody today and I want to give a warm welcome to Dr. Amanda variantes. I got it right. She is with NFA money. And she has such a such an array of things too, that she brings to the table. When it comes to money. I mean everything. Anytime I get somebody on the show, or I don't even know, I told her I didn't know if I've had a doctor on this show. But when I get somebody on the show that I know is well qualified to give you financial advice and talk about investing and talk about returns, I can guarantee you, this is the top of the peak. Okay, so we're gonna get what she's got. Hopefully, she's gonna give it to us. So Amanda, take it away. And welcome to the show.

Unknown Speaker  1:07  
Casey, good to be on. Thanks for having me. Yeah, and it's exciting because what I focus on is really Financial Intelligence. Right, and all of the things behind what causes you to be a good investor. So I'm sure all the fun Congress,

Casey Brown  1:23  
people need that. I mean, you know, and and Dave Ramsey is apt. He's absolutely made a fortune from just being direct telling people what they don't want to hear, and telling people what they don't want to hear to the degree that they end up doing it. And then so it's so we Yes, and it's, it's a little bit of a lead by example, kind of thing. So that's yes, people need financial education. As always said that. And I think a lot of people follow this, to a degree is, sometimes there's some things in high school and college they could really do away with and simply just teach people how to pronounce

Unknown Speaker  2:03  
your name. Yeah, yeah, that's really the impetus for my whole business. It was like when I was a wreck, and I started learning just basic skills, like relationship and money. And it was like, Oh, we don't learn this anywhere. We're just supposed to somehow absorb it from our surroundings and do a good job. But most people have a lot of shame and fear and guilt and doubt, and uncertainty and jealousy and resentment, like all those things around money. And so you know, what do you do when you don't know what to do? We usually just don't talk about it. And it's scary. It was interesting on my part, on my show, the other day, I had a CPA on and he was talking about how people come to him and tell him that they're his clients will tell him that they've been shamed by their CPAs, like telling them, you know, making them feel bad about the way they've spent money. And this is hurt. It's really common.

Casey Brown  2:51  
Well, and it's, and the unfortunate part is, is I guess it's been assumed for however many years that that this is something that is taught in the home. Yeah. And the unfortunate part about it is, is is it wasn't taught, if it's not taught, it's not taught, and that's going back like a couple of generations, if their parents, if my grandparents didn't teach my parents, my parents aren't gonna teach me. And then am I going to teach my kids likely? Most likely not. But so it almost is like a breaking of the cycle kind of thing to absolutely, yeah. And I think that some people again, there's a there's a common thread that runs that, if you don't know about it, it's not there. So like, they're kind of like, if I don't have any money, and I don't look and I don't pay any attention to it, then it's really not a problem. Yeah, it is. And I've been guilty of that myself. I mean, it's, you're busy doing other things, and then all of a sudden, you're broke, you know, you didn't even realize it. So but yeah, so So what what types of, I guess let's kind of start back and let's let's qualify a little bit and kind of maybe get a little backstory on who you are, where you come from. And then we'll kind of go forward into into the money discussion part of it. Yeah, I want people to find out eventually here at the end of this what NFA money is,

Unknown Speaker  4:14  
yeah, we could start with that. That's a fun one. Yeah, so NFA stands for no fucking around. So it's no fucking around money is my company. And really, the idea behind that is radical responsibility, and taking control of your reality and realizing that you are the creator of your reality. And so most of the time, like you were saying before, we want to avoid things by blaming other people blaming our childhood, blaming our circumstances, blaming society, blaming COVID, whatever it is, instead of going, Hey, I actually can learn and I can, I can learn how to be a money master. And so for me, it really started that way where, you know, one night I was laying on the floor crying. I had left my 15 year marriage having an affair. My next relationship wasn't working out. So I'm staring at this empty basement because my boyfriend had moved out all of his furniture. And I'd spent the day on Craigslist looking for places to live. And I couldn't afford anything. I had three kids in grad school. And I was like, Oh, shit, I'm gonna have to live in a studio apartment with like, college students who are in their 20s partying, and, you know, it's just going like,

Casey Brown  5:19  
nothing. I don't I be like, let's go.

Unknown Speaker  5:23  
I mean, you know, so maybe, okay, but with your three kids, it's like, oh, yeah, this is not a good situation. And so I was pretty freaked out. And I was, you know, sitting there having this moment of just like terror, and I was thinking, no one's coming to rescue me here. Like, my parents didn't have money at the time. I, you know, like, I was stuck. I had no credit cards, and I was just like, Oh, my God, what am I going to do. And I had this kind of epiphany moment where I was like, I'm the center of the problems here. Like, I looked at my patterns in my relationships, I'm like, okay, that's me, my money. Yes, I was in grad school, working my way to get a better job, and to be able to figure out how to have a profession that paid. So you know, I'm going, I gotta get out of the situation. And I really made a promise to myself in that moment, like, I'm willing to do whatever it takes to shift and start to learn what I need to learn. And it led to podcasts, which was really cool, because I was so busy. So I didn't have a lot of money, right. And so I'm going, Okay, I'm gonna listen to podcasts on the go, while I'm taking my kids to school, washing dishes. And I just was listening, double time learning, learning, learning. And it started to change me really from the inside out. And then the, you know, the cool pattern that I noticed was that all the podcasts were done by coach type people. And it was like, I really love teaching. I was a professor in the University, and I loved teaching, it was one of my favorite things. And I thought, I'm a coach. And then at the same time, my department where I was earning my graduate degree, had this national news Fallout where professors were leaving, and everyone was stressed to hell. And I was like, this is not the profession for me anymore. You know, this is too stressful. And so I decided to take the leap. And in that first year, after being on food stamps, living in subsidized housing, I ended up going six figures in my business and everything, since then has really been focused on how to master your mindset and overcome yourself to really feel like you have a magic wand to create whatever it is that you say you want to create in your reality.

Casey Brown  7:19  
And that's what the other day I had somebody on my podcast, and we were talking about just simply getting out of your own way. And that that's, I guess, probably an in short version of everything you just said. And that's that's focusing on where the problems are, where the problems are. And most of the time, at least from my experience, when you see people because in the real estate sales business part of my career, we would operate with people, a lot of times, about half the time you were meeting people at a point in their life where they really didn't want anybody to see him simply because they were either going through a divorce, or they had just experienced a death are they and again, the other half is people that are moving up moving away, no issues, right? So but unfortunately, the people the other half the half that I'm talking about, were they not that they are getting in their own way. But sometimes those situations tend to, like almost forcibly put people in their own way. Because they really don't know how to dig out so that when you say, changing the mindset, that's to me, the biggest thing that somebody can do is just say, Hey, okay, all of a sudden, I'm sick of living like this, this or this. I'm going to stop blaming my childhood, I'm going to stop blaming my mother, father, I'm going to stop doing all of these things. And you know what? I'm going to focus on tomorrow. Yeah, and that's one of the lessons that I try to stay in front of my kids with is I would I don't care what you do tomorrow. Just make sure it's an improvement over today. Awesome. So I'm the perfect parent right so after a course for the show. Me and I wish I would leave him alone and I can't be in our business and tell my 10 year old the other day that her business was my business. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker  9:21  
Everything you do is my business.

Casey Brown  9:26  
I have no business Okay, how's that? All right. No a 10 year old that deserves to have business but we got it straightened out so but so yeah, so changing of the mindset now I'd like to just go into obviously we've got your backstory and and if you're if your degrees and your your education didn't prequalify you your life experiences Sure do. Because there's a lot of people that are in those scenarios, and the ones that tend to stay in those scenarios, like you are the ones that would have turned around They started pointing at everything around them, like when the ex spouse or the Yeah, time married spouse or whatever. But the ones like yourself, tend to look forward and say, okay, hey, all right. Hey, I fucked up. I messed up. Let's go. Yeah. That's, and that's so what when you start talking about minds mind shift in, what is the beginnings of that look like? And where do you tend to find people? And then where do you tend to get a mind in the right direction? And go?

Unknown Speaker  10:31  
Yeah, you said so many important things there. One thing I want to add to that you're saying is, you know, for me, that was that critical moment where I did decide to take radical responsibility, because before that, I did blame everyone else. It was like, you know, my PhD is in sociology, which is the study really of marginalization and oppression. And so, and you know, how to make society better by studying the things that aren't working is mostly what sociology is. And so it was like, in that discipline, I learned a lot about, you know, I'm a first gen college student student, a marginalized identity in terms of like, Native American history, indigenous, that kind of thing. And so it was like, I was blaming that on where I was that I was, I blamed my ex husband completely. For me having an affair. I blamed my parents and religion, all the things, you know. And so it was in that moment, I really was like, You know what, like, if I keep blaming everyone else, nothing's going to ever change. I gotta take responsibility here. And so you know, it wasn't perfect before and I, it's for me, what that really is, is a shift from victim mindedness to Victor mindedness, and you go, I no longer choose to be a victim, i The past is not able to be changed, my perception of it can change, but I can't change the past. So what am I going to do from today forward to get a different future. And if we keep living in the past, it's impossible to change the future. And if we keep blaming other people, it's impossible to control your reality. And so it's like, Okay, where can I be responsible? So that's really where it started. And so I you know, in retrospect, in terms of all of the things I've done since that moment, and all of the people I've helped walk through their stuff, I like to come up with formulas, because it's easy and systematic. And it's like point A to point C, so my totally so my NFA money formula is exactly what you're asking. So it's step one, recognize, like, first you got to recognize where you're at, you've got to recognize where you're thinking, you got to recognize that your mindset is focused on blaming other people, it's focused on all the negative, it's focused on thinking that the history is going to repeat itself or impostor syndrome, fears, doubts, uncertainties, all those things. So you got to recognize that first. And then in Step two, you've got to reframe your belief system and reframe your actions. So you got to start going, Okay, what am I choosing to believe now? How am I going to start to change and what actions is animate, going to take today, one small step at a time to get different results. And then in Step three, you repeat that to reprogram, because everything we do is a habit. And habits are formed through repetition. And when you repeat something, it's internalized. So what most people do is repeat all the crap, right, they repeat, we have night, we have 60 to 70,000 thoughts per day, and 95% of them are the same over and over and over again. So what happens is your brain creates a pathway of least resistance and you're you have autopilot thoughts that just go to the same place every day. And if your thoughts aren't supporting your success, you're gonna keep getting the same results. So you've got to do one recognize to reframe three, repeat over and over and over again to reprogram your mindset. So that's, it's interesting how simple it actually is to change. The hard part is the first starting point where you get to go, Who am I going to be? Who am I going to choose to be? Do I choose to get something different? And then you got to do what it takes step by step every day to repeat repeat to get the autopilot success habits in place.

Casey Brown  13:55  
Wow. Wow. Wow. Recognize?

Unknown Speaker  14:00  
Recognize reframe. Reframe your reframing your thoughts, your actions, your decisions, and then reprogram is the result through repetition.

Casey Brown  14:09  
Yeah. And that's there's a lot of hours there. Yeah,

Unknown Speaker  14:13  
I love I love simplicity, right? Because then we can remember it and we can go okay, it's a really simple formula. Recognize, reframe, repeat, recognize, reframe, repeat.

Casey Brown  14:22  
And so I want to somewhat, I guess, in a way, I want to bring in and kind of push this towards my real estate syndication audience. And so you know, that's a lot of times what we do as real estate investors is and we call it rinse and repeat. I mean, I know that's obviously there's some simplistic version without all the life nuances involved there. But, but, but rinse and repeat, rinse and repeat, rinse and repeat, and you keep that same goal in mind the head of you, that's not it's not much different. It's the same thing when one's one way is talking about life. The other way is talking about your body. financial well being or whatever and so, so when you start so so your your program kind of takes into effect the, the money parts of things first or last or do you? Do you work on the? Do you work on the kind of shoveling everything else out of the way first and then you take money? How does that? How does the money come into play there?

Unknown Speaker  15:21  
Yeah, so I work a lot with law of attraction manifestation and really what that is, as a science of quantum physics being applied to you getting what you say you want. And so like to simplify, a lot of people go like wow, of attraction, that's some woowoo nonsense. And when I first started studying and researching, I'm like, Am I really gonna start teaching law of attraction, like, I'm a social scientist, and, you know, you gotta have proof and all these things. And then I started reading a lot about quantum physics and metaphysics and all these things. I'm like, Oh, my God, this, this works, you know, it's worked for me, it works for the people I teach it to, so that it all goes together. The reason I like to focus on money is because your outer world is a reflection of your inner world. And so money is an outer reflection of your inner world. So money is a very tangible physical manifestation of your inner thinking and your inner ways of being your inner energetic states, the way that you feel. And so I love working with people on how they're feeling energetically because entrepreneurs, one of the success measures, really the main one is money, right? And so I get to go, Okay, let's, if you are interested in making more money, he got to work on what's within. So you got to start shifting your mindset, which then gets you into inspired action, which then attracts money your way without you having to work so hard. So, you know, one of my main mantras in my business is work less, make more, have fun. And that's what I've done in my business. You know, every year I work less hours, I make more money. And I have more fun, because I'm doing things I love, through learning to automate delegate and drop things. And so I teach people how to get into their zone of genius to make money. That way, they feel like they're on vacation all the time. It's like, oh, well, you know, it's fun. Right? Now, I have fun talking to you. I'm not I don't feel like I'm working. You know,

Casey Brown  17:04  
that's where passive income fits into that lifestyle supply. Yes. Just a perfect fitting puzzle piece. I mean, it's like, you know, you want to have more fun and do these things. And then if you have, you know, if you can center around, okay, how do I make money while doing nothing, then it truly becomes the, what we call mailbox money in this, you know, where at least that's what that's what I call it. And so to say, all of that, and then to center it around, having more fun and doing the things in life that you want to do, because time is the only thing that we've got, right? I mean, yeah, if you really, essentially get down to it, you know, things are not bought with money, they're bought with little bits of your time and what time it took to make that money. So the only way to truly leverage is to increase the impact you can have in the same amount of time as the next guy. And so I love that, that whole mod like that, that whole way of looking at it. So. So when you get so we've got the mindset, we've got the money. And then we kind of bring everything together and say, okay, these two things go together. Because like you said, every year you want to work less, have more fun, be around those you enjoy being around more are or more regular more often, or whatever, whatever the situation is. And then so I guess, carry us on through the next part of the journey. And what's what will you know, from from there? The rinse and repeat part?

Unknown Speaker  18:38  
Yeah, yeah. So what do you want to do? Most people, a lot of entrepreneurs, let's say live in a state of stress. So they're really addicted distress. And so they build prisons out of their businesses. And so they're working really, really hard, they're often struggling or when they start to make money, they get these, what I call money blocks, and competing commitments. And competing commitments are when your unconscious and conscious are battling against each other, and 95% of us is unconscious. So if 95% of you doesn't believe that you deserve that much money, or has fear around, making lots of money, or feels afraid that people are going to judge you for having a lot of money, there's all kinds of money blocks that come in, if 95% of you believes that, and only 5% of you believes it's awesome to have a ton of money, you're gonna have some sort of conflict and competing commitments in there. And so teaching people how to feel good about making bigger and bigger amounts of money is what I love to do. So you know, people know me as the money healer, and it's helping people heal their relationship to money, so that they feel good, making money, spending money, learning how to leverage money, and all those things that go along with the money making game.

Casey Brown  19:50  
Yeah. And then and then of course, there's always the bit of responsibility that comes along with that. Yeah, but not Yes, doing it too much, which That's not the American way, the American way is to take all the money, you have spent all that and then spend as many credit cards worth of money as you can get. Yeah, it's the American way. But so, so yeah, so so to come in there, gather the money, understand that you deserve the the to deserve what you've earned, or what you're making, or this the simple fact that, you know, a lot of times and as marketers, which is, which is, again, at the heart of everything we do, we're marketers or I do. And as marketers, we tend to, we tend to if there's if there's a line in the sand, we tend to get our foot as close as we possibly can to it, and then lean over the line just to see how far we can lean before we fall. And that that's, I don't think that that's far fetched a far fetched example of just about the way a lot of people are, whether they're marketers or not. And so they're there, there has to be some responsibility there. And how do you put that stuff in check on the other side to say, hey, like the checks and balances, kinda, you know,

Unknown Speaker  21:09  
I would say, I, everybody's unique. And so it's interesting, like, the human behavior is human behavior. So what I like to teach people is their stretch zone, to where they can stretch their money, setpoint. And they can use their their energy, their mindset, their intellect, their actions, to, to stretch it to whatever amount they want to so when they're at that stretch point, you're talking about where it's like, how far can we go before we we really sabotage in certain ways, right? How do we remove the sabotage so that then you can expand your fullest potential, and whatever that is for you. And that's going to be different for each person. And, you know, when you're starting out in the money making game, you know, everyone here who's listening, who's a bigger investor, and has more money, they can look back. And remember, when they started, how, you know, a certain amount of money to them seemed like a lot. And now it's a much larger amount of money than that, then that's like, oh, that's normal to me now. And it's a bigger amount. That seems like a lot. So we all have a money set point. And so we've got to learn how to stretch that money setpoint so that we don't sabotage ourselves.

Casey Brown  22:10  
Yeah. And then so that makes perfect sense. And it's, it's a lot of times, I guess, maybe people see that throughout a career. And, you know, obviously, you know, a 300,000 on our house is a lot of money, when you're going in, you're borrowing the majority of it, and then that's a lot of money. But then when as you pay it down, and as you get on the other side of paying it down, now you're looking back the other direction, saying, you know, that was a lot of money. But hey, it was manageable. We did it or whatever the case is. So it's so yeah, even though you're not, you're not meaning to change your set, your mindset is changing kind of as you as you progress through different ways of life, I guess. So. Yeah. Right. So So tell us, I want to hear a little bit about specifically, if you want to discuss NFA money and what it has to offer, you know, whether because you I think you said it was a coaching, that you had some coaching stuff that you were doing, and just kind of kind of discussed with us a little bit about how how, how all of this gets put into, like action, I guess somebody comes to you and says, Hey, man, I'm ready to do this, then what happens?

Unknown Speaker  23:24  
Yeah, yeah. So I do, I would say I do a lot of teaching of strategies. So I am a money coach for entrepreneurs and coach type people. And it's a lot of it as training and strategy around how to reprogram your money mindsets. And so you know, I do I take a handful of one on one clients per year. And then I have a YouTube channel and if a money teach, you know, do videos there every week, and then I have a course called reprogram your money mindset. And then I just I teach, teach, teach. And it's really something you know, the skills that I teach are for every level of income, it just depends on how big you want to go and how good you want to feel along the way. And so it's, you know, it's really fun teaching is one of my highest values. So I always teach people to live in their zone of genius, knowing their value system. And so zone of genius would look like you wake up every day, you love what you're doing, you feel inspired, you feel alive, you feel joy, you're like awesome, my life is great, I couldn't be better. And I get to do everything I love through drop, I tell people Jaap automate delegate anything you don't like you gotta drop automate delegate, because what happens then, as you raise your frequency, the higher your frequency is, the more that you attract what you want your way. So as you get into a state of joy in what you're doing in your work, you attract opportunities instead of having to work so hard. And so that's where that work less make more have fun comes in. And so you know, working with people in whether it's one on one coaching or through math, I have masterminds or courses. That's how people learn my stress. ajiz

Casey Brown  25:01  
Awesome, awesome. And as we've discussed pre show, you're from where I was raised Colorado. Yeah. So but so what? You know, I guess I guess other information around this, I was wanting to, to one of the things that I read here, again, and this is kind of go back to your story was after going from food stamps to building a six figure income fast now to give one or two pieces of advice for somebody that maybe maybe they're not all the way down on food stamps a bit extreme, and maybe they don't want to just wake up tomorrow and make six figures, maybe they want to just kind of, to kind of maybe, like, maybe, let's say they make 25,000. There were they're living paycheck to paycheck, and they're trying, of course, 25,000 in this day, and time is not much. But let's say there, what is a couple of pieces of advice you could give somebody just to get just to, just to get started kind of on their own?

Unknown Speaker  26:02  
Yeah, you know, the things you've got to focus on are raising your value on wealth building. So if you don't have the amount of money that you want to have first, you gotta ask yourself, What am I spending any time on learning how to make more money? Am I spending time on learning money mindset? You know, so for me, when I was on food stamps, it was like, I realized, I don't know anything about money. Really, you know, it was just like I just learned and picked up I help people write a money story so that they can see the downloads that they got when they were kids because we get programmed with our money beliefs from ages zero to seven parents.

Casey Brown  26:36  
Hang on. Oh, yeah. Money Story. Let's let's, before you go further, because that that just really like just jumped right at me when you said that. What? What is somebody's money story?

Unknown Speaker  26:50  
Yeah, so this is awesome. This is. So when we're ages zero to seven, we are having our subconscious mind programmed with all the things around us that we see, we hear we're told we observe. And we're like sponges, we have no filtration system, we just take it in, take it and take it in. And it programs us with specific beliefs. So I help people start to understand what is that money story that you created, that you're still playing out today? And so I have people look at, you know, what were you told when you were little about money? What did you observe? What did you experience, and people's minds are blown because they're like, Oh, my God, you know, I watched my parents. Here's an example, I watched my parents fight a lot about money and feel stressed whether they made a lot or a little, they were stressed out about money. And so it taught me money equals stress. And so now every time I go to make more and more money, I start to feel stressed. And I start to get scared of making more because I'm afraid that if I make too much, I'll be too stressed. And so they either avoid looking at their money, or they avoid making too much money. So they have this money set point that caps them at whatever amount they subconsciously think is too much. And so we help to deprogram that think that's

Casey Brown  28:02  
the correlation between, like, our addiction to stress as as a life deal. Yeah. So so you're when you when you're programmed to when you're programmed with stress, then that becomes your vise, I guess where now you just want? Yeah, more of it. And it's that's, that's strange to say stress. And, yeah, you would want more stress. But okay, so your money story that again, yeah, interrupt where you were headed with?

Unknown Speaker  28:36  
That's okay. No, and I love it, Casey, because you said something so important that I talk to people a lot about like we are addicted to stress, and how that happens is exactly what you're saying. We get more comfortable feeling uncomfortable. And it sounds really counterintuitive. You're like, why would I want to be addicted to stress? That doesn't make sense. The truth is that you have watched it, you've lived in it and see your body it gets like this. It's like almost as if you had DNA that felt comfortable in stress. And so when you start to feel happy, you're actually more uncomfortable, because you're like, I don't know what to do with this relaxation and free time. So I actually have to teach people how to relax, and how to enjoy and how to tap into that space of presence and having free time, because they say they want it but when they start to get it, they're uncomfortable because they don't. It's

Casey Brown  29:25  
like, I'm like, you know, I grew up my grandmother or here in Kentucky. She was on the farm, you know, she lived on a farm and it she would always say there's always something to do. There's always something yes, there's nothing to do. There's always something to do. And I just like so now looking back, I'm like, okay, is that gonna? That's exactly what you're saying. I mean, and that's the way she was raised. That's totally, you don't yeah, you're free time is filled by production of something. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker  29:52  
Well, and there's this huge judgment. If you have free time, and you're not doing a lot you're lazy and people have a huge charge on being lazy.

Casey Brown  30:00  
You won't get to you want to get to my goal and call them lazy I mean that's exactly yeah, but well listen Amanda I got a couple of questions for you that we always kind of in the episodes with and I'd like for you just to just to be as open as possible and tell us tell us what you think but what is the best book that you have recently read?

Unknown Speaker  30:23  
I've got it right on my desk because I my two of my masterminds are going through it right now say this this book is awesome. Oh, let's see if my camera will do a happy pocket full of money. Happy pocket full of money a happy pocket full of money if people go to my YouTube channel I have a couple chapters reviewed in here it's by David Cameron get Conde really powerful book on learning wealth consciousness and taking it to higher and higher levels where you can manifest and it's really about energetic alignment so that you can manifest money more easily align yourself for easy money making so it's it teaches a lot of what I teach in my business.

Casey Brown  31:00  
Awesome. Awesome. That's great. That's good. That's good. That's one I haven't heard of before. So yeah,

Unknown Speaker  31:06  
it's a good one sided when

Casey Brown  31:07  
I get good, good, good money management books. Okay. What is dream vacation that you have either recently taken or hoped to take in the future?

Unknown Speaker  31:16  
Ah, well, I got married in Hawaii last year. going again, I love Hawaii. It's fun. Easy trip fun, really relaxing. I love high I love the diversity of landscape. You know, it's like hiking and ocean love it so fun.

Casey Brown  31:31  
And then a little like luau. And some cookin and logs. I think they call them pigs. Yeah, I'm hogs in the south. But anyway, so Alright, cool. So listen, obviously you're you're chock full of information from a lot of different a lot of different experiences in your life and a lot of different. Obviously, well, degrees and things that you've been through yourself. If somebody heard something that resonated with them today or something, some for some reason, they want to reach out to you what is the best way for that to happen?

Unknown Speaker  32:05  
I if I were them, go to NFA money So NFA money They'll get access to a money mindset quiz to the money story where they can write their own money story and then also to the reprogram money mindset course. So they'll get free teaching, they'll get free quiz, all kinds of cool stuff, and then access to my paid some of my paid options as well. So NFA money And then, of course plug in to me on YouTube and at NFA money and all kinds of good releases there.

Casey Brown  32:33  
Yes, wonderful. Well, I can't thank you enough for your time. I know it's it's always hectic trying to get people who are busy like yourself on here, and you have a lot of things going on. But But I know that the audience is really going to get to get some good stuff out of this. And I hope it again, it's it's one of those things that if we can just help one person, we've done our job. So I hope I hope that they reach out to you if they are experiencing some type of money problems. And don't forget that your passive income fits right in with what she's got going on and what she's telling you. So I want to thank everybody for listening. Amanda, thank you again so much for being with us. I really appreciate it.

Unknown Speaker  33:12  
You're welcome, Casey. Thanks for having me on. Yes, ma'am.

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