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April 5, 2022

Episode 2: Helping Working Professionals Passively Invest in Real Estate with Brian Hemedinger

Episode 2: Helping Working Professionals Passively Invest in Real Estate with Brian Hemedinger

Fortune favors the bold. The decisive. Yet excessive options can stall even the surest among us.  With so many ways to make your millions, choosing the right way to invest for you can be a considerable challenge! Brain Hemedinger, our latest...


Fortune favors the bold. The decisive. Yet excessive options can stall even the surest among us. 

With so many ways to make your millions, choosing the right way to invest for you can be a considerable challenge!

Brain Hemedinger, our latest guest on the Cash Flow Pro podcast, was forced to make this tough decision. Not content with working a 9-5 all his life, Brian made the tough choice to invest in himself by pursuing real estate entrepreneurship. He followed his passion for helping others grow their wealth and find the same freedom he did - passively and successfully. 

His investment firm, Maebar Capital, aids corporate professionals in expanding their investment portfolio with cash flow-focused multifamily real estate, all without the burden of being a landlord. Working with trustworthy operators, Brian and Maebar Capital handles all the heavy lifting, allowing investors to passively reap the returns they deserve.

In this episode, we discuss:
How to escape the dreaded 9-5 through passive investing in real estate

Brian’s own experiences exiting the rat race and accomplishing his dreams

Passive vs active investing, and knowing which one is best for you

Investing options beyond the traditional 401k and why brokers WANT you to fail

There are many ways to invest. If you’re someone considering whether real estate is right for you, or are stuck trying to choose between investing passively or actively, or even just looking to make your first investment, to begin with, then Brian’s insight may be just what you need to hear!

Find your flow,
Casey Brown

Resources mentioned in this podcast:
Maebar Capital home page
Brian Hemedinger’s LinkedIn profile

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I learned at a young age that people do not really care about you, they only care about what you can do for them.  
Then I got to thinking, how could I leverage that into helping me build a career.  
I said early on when I started selling real estate that I wanted to be the place where everyone came for information and I would sell real estate along the way.  
Well so far that has worked out really well, as I close in on 1 billion in real estate sold, I am proud to announce that I am just getting started.  

We are excited to roll forward to next year and the next and the next by providing the value people look for, by giving them information and helping them out when they need it, and selling a little real estate along the way.  

Let's learn together, yes together I want to learn from you as well.

Transcript

Casey Brown  0:00  
and your business. What's it called again?

Unknown Speaker  0:03  
The real estate businesses may bar capital.

Casey Brown  0:08  
Hey there, welcome to cash flow Pro, your podcast of the week. And we are here with Brian himid dinger of May bar capital. And today we're going to kind of dig in and talk to him and see what got him started his passion for business, and everything in between all of what he does on a daily basis, and hopefully we can kind of kind of get you where you want to go and help you with your efforts in in, in capital raising and just busy. Welcome, Brian. How are you?

Unknown Speaker  0:43  
I'm doing great, man. Thanks for having me

Casey Brown  0:44  
here. Yes, sir. Absolutely. We're glad to have you and hope I hope that our listeners can find some value in what you have to add to their life and business life and everything like that. So tell us a little bit about let's let's kind of start with Maybach capital, maybe, where it where it started, how it got to where it is today, and then even possibly where it is today. And then going forward, what what's your outlook is? So go ahead and give us give us some background.

Unknown Speaker  1:09  
Okay, well, where to start. So let's start, we'll start with me bar capital. And then I'll kind of backtrack, that capital, what we're doing with bar capital is really helping working professionals to invest passively in real estate. And this is something that it came to me because I came to learn about passively investing in real estate a few years ago, discovered the power of that, and then discovered a passion for that business, and then ultimately wanted to help other people do the same thing. Sure. So that's a brief version, where it really comes from, you know, just a little bit more about my background is I actually started my professional career, my adult life as an actor. So I went to, I went to undergrad for acting and went to graduate school for acting, moved to New York City. And that's what I was doing for really the first 10 years I was in New York City, and the first kind of 10 years of that post college life. Yep. And from there, so in some ways, there was a little bit of an entrepreneurial element to that. But it was also pursuing a passion pursuing something that was a little bit different, choosing my own path. And I got to a certain point, when I was acting, where I had accumulated quite a bit of debt, I had been about $95,000 in debt between student loans and credit card debt, because I was generally making about 30 to $35,000 a year, not just acting, part of it was acting part of it was doing other jobs that were paying the bills. And at that point, I decided to shift because I just think his priorities shifted by, you know, I realized that financial stability was more important to me at that point. And I wanted to really put my energy into something, a career that I could really grow. And I started, I took a sales position with an upscale fitness brand. And I still work full time for that upscale fitness brand today. And that's what really introduced me to business, I had a passion for fitness. So it was a natural fit, and found myself found that I was really effective at sales, and grew my career at that brand, and then started to really learn business. Because as I became more of an operator, within that brand, it was really running fitness clubs and running multiple fitness clubs and managing a p&l and all the things that go into business. So is that developed? Eventually, I started to see, okay, if I can do this, what else can I do? And eventually, like, I think a lot of us, and you know, maybe some of the listeners out there can relate to this. I think when you're pursuing a corporate profession, for a lot of the time, you might be focused on your career growth within that company. Yeah, but then you get to a certain point where you start to look a little farther ahead. And you start to say, alright, well, what else? What else do I want to accomplish in life, because you kind of reach a point where the growth, the company is not going to give you that growth anymore. So it's really up to you to create that growth for yourself. And so it was really a two things that brought me to real estate, one was wanting to create financial freedom outside of a full time position. And two, was just wanting to develop another skill set and grow as a business person as professional and just as a person in general in that pursuit of creating my own business.

Casey Brown  4:41  
Sure, sure. I tell you the first thing that that I really I want to revert back to what you said once in a very, very beginning and an end. It was to everyday people being passive investors. And and that was, of course one of the first things you mentioned. So I assumed that that was That's a passion or something that you really want to share with people and, and our listeners, you know, we talk so much about financial freedom. And we talked so much about about the ability to escape the, what, nine to five, or whatever somebody wants to call it, which, you know, I've also been a big proponent of hey, good, taxpaying citizens that want to do the same thing every day. It's wonderful. And and how do they become involved. And what you said was, you know, helping, just everyday people that maybe maybe they don't want to own real estate or manage real estate, or, or be the guy that goes and kicks the family out the week before Christmas, or whatever the case is. But when they become passive investors, you know, there's nothing wrong with working a nine to five job but take that money and invest it into something that then pays you the dividends, you know, not the dividends because I don't want to our passive income is certainly much greater than, than what most people would would look at dividends as being I guess, is what I'm getting at. So. So again, a little bit there to into how, like, like, like, why did you set all of a sudden kind of feel a passion for helping the quote unquote, everyday person, the nine to five guy, you know, showing them kind of the path in this and where at least where it led you to as far as like getting your business started?

Unknown Speaker  6:23  
Yeah, great question, Casey. So what is I think that there's a quote out there, I don't know whose it is, but it says you're best positioned to help the person that you once were. And what happened with me was after working in this role, not this role, actually several different roles, but working with this company for about 10 years, and just being so focused on career. I actually, I went to a Tony Robbins seminar in 2016. And that started to open my eyes up to kind of other things. And that led me to other seminars, and one of them was a financial seminar. And that's where I really started to think about what other kind of financial opportunities exist beyond what I currently know. Because what I currently what I knew at that time was, okay, I work, I get a paycheck, I invest part of that paycheck in a 401k. I invest part of that paycheck in a brokerage account with it, my wife, and I have, and we have a financial advisor that helps us with that, and does sort of that traditional 6040, kind of higher risk, lower risk lit stocks bond type of thing. And I didn't really even truly understand what we were investing in, I was just kind of trusting the system, trusting other people. Yep, with those investments. And I think what kind of woke up in me was, we're talking about our future. And we're talking about two things. One is, the way that the system is set up now is it's basically telling me, okay, work until you're 60 to 65. And then hopefully, you've invested enough that you can live off your investments, and live the same lifestyle that you live now. But don't increase the cost of your lifestyle, to live the same lifestyle that you live now. And you've got to work till 60 to 65 full time. So I was like, Okay, well, there's got to be like, I actually really love working, I love my, my company. I love the role I'm in so it wasn't about getting out of it. But I said I want the flexibility. I want the options, and I want to be able to, to do more with our life. Yep, so that was number one. And so that's kind of led me to getting more educated. And the reason why I'm so passionate about helping other people with it is because I feel like there's a lot of people that are like me, and I'm not that far removed from that. And I'm still learning all the time every day. But there's many people that I think are like me that trust that system and aren't really taking control of their investments. They're trusting the process and they're giving it to somebody else. And I just think there's so many opportunities out there that we don't see if we don't start to look for them. Yep. And that's that listeners to this podcast, that at least a seed has been planted they sought out this information because they're already realizing on some level that hey, there's other there's other options out there other than just investing in a 401k and a brokerage account investing in the market.

Casey Brown  9:28  
Yep. And the classic I dropped drew two points out of everything you just said and the first being you know the the old I don't want to say the brokerage the general 401k brokerage go to is well you know, everybody thinks that hey, if I want to go buy real estate or I want to go do this with this money or I'm gonna go do that this money. I see I'm seeing for myself other investments that go to other brokerages. Well, you'll just taxes and penalties will just eat it up and And when in fact, when in fact, that's not, you know, there's ways to do that, that these folks just don't know about. Because when you take that money, and you put it to work into something, you know, you might see a high gain opportunity into something, we'll turn to take your self directed IRA, or CheckBook IRA, or whatever the case is, and, and put it into there, you know, and these guys are, this lobby is so strong. And these guys have such a strong hold on controlling this money. And people are just scared to even to even go in and ask, and it's like, you know, come on guys. And we don't why are we here for the customer? Are we here for to be self serving? No, we're here for the customer, let's tell them what they can do to grow their money. Because eventually, some of that money may come back to the stock market, or 401k, or investments otherwise, but at the same time, don't scare these people into saying, hey, no, you can't do that taxes and penalties just eat it up. And then the second point, that one thing that I learned in my own personal story from what you said is, you know, you were talking about help the person it was it helped the person you used to be and and another another kind of play on that a little bit is your mess becomes your message. And so you know, when people get into to financial ruin, or they get into whatever it is, a lot of times the folks that what my grandmother used to say Waller in their mess, don't don't necessarily learn. But the people that do learn and say, Hey, these are all the things I did to screw this up before, let's, let's not do those and let's go forward. But not only that, let's let's tell other people, Hey, if you're in that position where I used to be, look, all you got to do is do this, this, this and this and you can be here. And that's and it's such a that's such a good topic and such a probably a an entire topic for another or that's more of a Tony Robbins kind of I used to do into Tony Robbins give me more of a Tony Robbins thing is just just just get up I mean get up and do get up and be get up and move. And and I love that about your story. I love that about about what led you to where you are today. And I think that that's very admirable. Just a very admirable position anyway, your mess becomes your message help the person you used to be and and get up and go forward. And don't be scared to talk to your financial advisor about exactly what we just said, look at real estate, talk about real estate, they're gonna say no, you don't want to do that, because you know what, you're taking money out of their pockets. So with that being said, Let's chat a little bit about a specifically made our capital and what it offers, where what asset classes, you're looking at what you know, what investors look at when they come or what kind of questions maybe they ask you when they come that you can answer that maybe our viewers might have as well. So tell us a little bit about maybe bar capital.

Unknown Speaker  12:55  
Yeah, so maybe capital came out of really me learning the real estate business. So what I did was once I got more serious about really investing in real estate, because there was a few years of, of listening to podcasts, reading books, going to some meetups, but not really doing anything, just kind of taking it in. And when I joined a mentorship program in September of 2020 program called Jake and Gino, which has been tremendous. Yeah, and that's what really educated me on multifamily. And through that process, I started to pursue investing in multifamily. And I took the really the traditional path of I chose a market to focus on I was focused on Reno, Nevada, and kind of, you know, created my criteria in terms of the types of properties I was looking at the class of properties, the size of properties, etc. And would go to the market would meet with the brokers etc. And in doing all this and meeting a lot of other investors, I realized this is a team sport. Very few people do this on their own very few multifamily companies are one person that is doing this. It's a team and there's different skill sets on that team. And those skill sets complement one another. So as I learned that, I decided, okay, I want to focus more on the capital raising side of the business. Yep. Because what I love to do is just what we talked about, which is I love to introduce people to what multifamily investing is, I love to educate them, and help them get to the point where they are ready to invest. So that's what we do in May of our capital is basically partner with really high quality operators that are in the markets that they're focused on, that have a track record in those markets. And the way that we add value is by helping them to raise capital for their properties for their deals. And again, attracting and educating investors and then connecting them to those deals. And so that's one thing that that's what made our capital does but at the same time I'm off So, as an investor, I invest passively. Yeah. And I also invest in what are called Joint Venture type partnerships where you partner with maybe a few other investors and purchase a property yourselves without outside investors, yet you have a lot more flexibility for longer term holds, etc. So I'm kind of doing all those things. But the Maybach capital piece is more of the, again, partnering with high quality operators and helping by raising capital.

Casey Brown  15:29  
Yep. So it's, uh, let me let me I think, let me simplify everything you just said, from a capital standpoint for the listeners. And it's three words, guys, it's fund of funds. And it's essentially the same thing, you know, you you take, it's the same thing, it's same thing we do with 3000 capital. And basically, you take, you know, he's out vetting operators in a geographical area that he understands that he knows he'd like he said, Reno, Nevada, baby, for instance. And, and he knows a just a top tier operator out there, that maybe you either a wouldn't have ever found in your search, or B, maybe you pick this guy's competition, and he's fixing to go broke or whatever the case may be. And so Brian has went out vetted him knows this process knows the properties that he's looking for. And it's I tell you, it's it's the coming of the ages type investment opportunities is what Brian's talking about here. And when you start looking at, at being able to, to kind of niche this down geographical areas, it was big to me, Brian, was that big deal? That was really big, when we started kind of looking at operators because you got an operator that spread out, let's toggle one second, we got an operator that spread between La Denver and Nashville, and Baltimore, you know, the thing is, is that none of those assets or the say the resonance of those assets of their multifamily are, are really even in the same position in life, because just simply by where they live, so geography was big to me, it's something that just never really, that I never really looked at and never heard many people talk about was saying, hey, let's, let's pin this down, because the Reno market is going to be different than the Baltimore market, you know, just in general rents, same thing may rent for twice as much one place to the other. So what So was geography big to you all?

Unknown Speaker  17:32  
Geography is yes. And and I think, especially in this market, because this is such a competitive market. Yeah, that ideally, I want to work with operators that are in those markets that know it. So well know it's street by street. Because to me, those operators that know that market and have that same market advantage. They've got the relationships, they've got the knowledge, is there going to be able to see some of the opportunities that other people don't see. And they're also going to be able to see some of the things, some of the risks. Yeah, that people may not see in something that looks really good on the surface. Absolutely. In a market like this, because

Casey Brown  18:16  
right here, right here locally, and I'll give, I'll give a real world example of exactly what you're saying locally.

Unknown Speaker  18:24  
You know, I know, I know, a guy that bought a, he bought a I think it was a

Casey Brown  18:28  
36 unit complex, fairly small. Bought it for 600,000. I know, isn't that crazy? 36 unit. I mean, it's just nuts, the kind of stuff that we that we're running for. Maybe it was 24 units. I can't remember that unit count either way. He bought it for 600,000 Sold it for 800,000. Okay, made 200 grand and in where we're from 200 grand is is I mean, that's pretty savvy move. All right. Well, the guy that bought it for 800,000 turned around and sold it for 3.5 million. Okay, raise the rents. Turner did a few minor this after the other sold it for 3.5 million. All right, well, you know, that that property has traditionally in our town been been somewhat problematic, law enforcement, current crime stuff type things just just generally, you know. And so what I'm getting at is is that that the guy that bought it for three point or the group or the investor, whoever they bought it for 3.5 million was strictly looking at the numbers. They hadn't came to somebody locally and said, Hey, what about that? Now, I hope that the raised rents and the new asset type class that it's obviously been bumped up to, I hope that changes things cleans it up and makes it makes it respectable place to live, but at the same time, it's just like, you know, some a group from here bought this asset here, and you know, everybody made money along the way. But geography played huge into that. I mean, it was it was mad, you know, I'm sorry about like, niche down into the market. And so and then tell us a little bit more about how you vet an operator and what other types of areas you check for, you know, that you check into about them before really telling your investors Hey, I think this is a good guy to partner with.

Unknown Speaker  20:19  
So a few things. One is I'm just knowing the person and trusting the when I say person or people or the team. Yeah, whatever. Yeah, first and foremost, to me, and I am somebody I've realized through this process that it takes me time to develop that. Yes, interesting, because I realized that I don't I think by nature, there's a little bit of a lack of trust, even though I feel that most people are trustworthy. So yeah, I believe in, in humanity, but it just takes me time to feel like, hey, I can like the person, but it just takes me time to feel like I can, I can absolutely trust this person. Yep. So I've realized that and it's actually taking me even longer than I that I realized. So one is just getting to know the person understanding who they are as a person understanding, not just in their business, but outside their business, spending time with them, visiting them, and, and, and really seeing how they operate their business, understanding the culture of their business, understanding their team, to just make sure that it's in full alignment with who I am. And the types of investors that I'm attracting as well. Yeah, that's number one. And then, of course, the track record, and the track record is important. But at the same time, everybody starts somewhere. So there's, you know, you may have someone that's had, you know, 20 transactions in the past, right, they've got a, they're very experienced, you may have somebody that has three, doesn't mean, I won't work with the person that's had three, yeah, just, it just means I need to really, really understand their, I really need to feel confident in their capabilities, whereas the person that's done 20, or has that reputation in their business, their credibility kind of precedes them. Yep, that's right.

Casey Brown  22:07  
That's right. And then of course, you know, just just how they operate and so on. Yeah, it makes perfect sense, man. I mean, it's, it's like, that's the, that's the heart of our business and business model. Is, is the operator, you know, everything about the operator. And, man, I mean, you're just, you're, you're like, everything, you're saying it, I don't, I mean, it's the same exact thing that I preach every single day, is, you know, hey, the guy that's done 234 deals, and the guy that's done 50 deals, it doesn't doesn't mean one's better than the other, it means one's probably knows a few more nuances than the other or a few more, you know, kind of the brevity of what they're getting into, versus somebody that's maybe a little bit green, or, you know, but nevertheless, and and in general business can teach you a lot about that stuff, just just general business practices, do they have systems set up? Do they have, how do they communicate, and that's, that's what, you know, one guy said one time, you know, communication with your investors, that's, that's where your, that's where your, your, your, the whole pride of your company resides is communication with your investors, because that's what people want, they want to know when they're gonna get paid, they want to know when you're going to talk to them next. And if I know those two things, you know, and you can have what so called, I've actually run went from, from referring to it as a fund to funds to investor relations business, basically, because, you know, we want to be in the, we want to deal with the investors, we want to talk to the investors, we want to help the investors, we want to make sure that they understand where their money is parked, and so on and so forth. Now, the so the deals that we're all doing, and I wanted to I wanted to go back real quick to just a couple of minutes ago and give Jake and Gino a plug. Those guys were are just outstanding in the industry. And as you can tell the way Brian talks the way or the knowledge that Brian has, you know, in the the good and I'm not even in the mentor business because I don't, I'm not looking to mentor folks, I'm looking to educate help and then and then go Yeah, gain investors and so on. So what I what I'm getting at is is, is you know, get a mentor, you heard the importance right there from Brian, of what the importance of a mentor was to him. And and how, because they're, you know, again, those nuances, those little things that you may or may not know, you think you've got a business stack a capital stack, you think you've got it all figured out. But when you when you look for an A have that mentor to bounce a question off of or whatnot, man, yeah, I mean, those guys are great. And so you really feel like having a mentor, just maybe shorten your your length of time of learning and then tell us a little bit about how that helped you get get rolling forward.

Unknown Speaker  24:52  
That's such an important point because I think I generally feel like people fall into one of two categories. They fall closer to one of two categories. And that is, you have people that have a bias towards taking action, right? People that just do, they're like, they get the idea. And they're like, Alright, I'm going for it. And it's that sort of ready fire aim approach. And then you have other people that, and this is I put myself more in this category. Other people that just take time they get they see it, they know the seed is planted, they start to study, they start to say, Oh, I don't know, I don't know, okay, well, maybe I should go this direction, maybe I should go this direction, do a lot of analysis. And I'll spend well bias for not taking action. Yep. And I think mentorships help both of those people. Because me again, I fall in that second category. And I don't, I just don't, when I joined that mentorship program. That's what got me into action mode. Because there was a process, there was structure, there was accountability. I'm around other people that are doing it, that then gives me more confidence and certainty that I can also do it. So it was it's been tremendously helpful. In addition to of course, the knowledge that you that you gained from it. Sure, other people that I've met through the program, it's more that maybe are more biased towards taking action. It's helped them tremendously because usually they've done some stuff before they've they've come in, and then they start to they start to get more information, they start to get more coaching and they realize, oh, okay, oh man, I made this mistake, I made this mistake, I made this mistake. And they start since they're already taking action, they just they get the return on their investments so quickly, because they start making changes that immediately increase their profitability or save them from potential mistakes that would cost them a great amount of money. So both of those categories of people and then again, community community is just so powerful. And what I like so much about the Jake and Gino community, I'm sure others are great as well. But the Jake and Gino community, just really generous kind people that want to genuinely help each other. Sure, just, it's, you know, you, you attract who you are, I think and Jake and Gino are excellent people that their heart is in the right place. So that I think they attract other people that that are just, you know, very heart centered entrepreneurs and just have really strong reasons for doing what they're doing. And so that has been tremendous, as well as just creating those friendships.

Casey Brown  27:27  
Yeah, and you know, that's it's just there's so many different angles to take to it

why that's not gonna work.

Unknown Speaker  27:42  
Oh, yeah, what just happened?

Casey Brown  27:45  
Can you still hear me? Yeah, the camera.

Unknown Speaker  27:47  
Sure you But yeah, this one on the imaging edge web webcam.

Casey Brown  27:51  
Yeah, I'm gonna have to have her edit all that out. Okay, here we are. We're back. Okay. So when you when you look at at the mentor ship, and you come in and yeah, I mean, everything you just said makes so much sense. And, and I was one of those people who I've always kind of been the DIY, if you will, the DIY kind of guy. And but once I joined my mastermind and got my mentorship, man, I mean it really fast track things and, and so no, I that was just something I want to dig into. And I think the listeners definitely need to understand that that's, that is that's almost a key piece that's almost as big of a key piece as as defining your avatar or or figuring out your operator folks or whatever the case is. So anyway, so Brian anything else you want to add any any other layers of this that maybe we missed? Or maybe I know obviously, you're like myself, we could talk all day every day and and and make you know different discussions about different topics and so on. But anyway, anything you want to add about maybe maybe bar capital or yourself or anything other like anything like that?

Unknown Speaker  29:00  
Well, I think other thing I would say is that you know, there may be listeners that want to get started with something like this and and maybe are thinking about investing passively, but also have some desire to be active. And what part of what I've learned through this process is just the growth that comes from pursuing this creating this business. Yeah, I don't move as quickly as some of the other people I know and that's okay. Because I'm moving and I just encourage everybody that if if you if you have that desire if it's if it's in you just know that just the pursuit of creating this business you're gonna grow so much. Oh, sure.

Casey Brown  29:49  
Striding frustrating, I gotta figure that out.

Unknown Speaker  29:53  
All right, go ahead. I'm

Casey Brown  29:54  
sorry. We're about done but geez and mighty.

Unknown Speaker  29:57  
Don't make that part again. Yeah, please. Yeah, so the other thing I would say is some of the listeners might be listening and, and maybe have the interest in investing in real estate and are kind of on the fence, whether they want to be active or passive. And I would just encourage everybody, if you have the desire to be active in some way, go for it. Yep, you'll get get the get the coach and get the mentorship. But the pursuit of creating your own business, especially if you're a full time employee, it's so empowering. You learned so much in that process, about business about yourself pushing yourself outside your comfort zone, there's just so much growth that happens just in the pursuit of creating your own business, it's okay, if you're not moving at the same pace as everybody else. But if you're just continuing to move forward, there's a lot of gratification that comes from that. I've learned that and you know, one great way to get started is investing passively to give yourself that exposure. But if you had the interest in going active, find a way to start to get active as well start getting around other people that are doing it and you know, they say your your network is your net worth right. So get around other people that are doing it and it will help you to create that identity as well of being an entrepreneur. Alright,

Casey Brown  31:14  
that's fine Mont metros, Cameron Trashman. Yeah, that's we I think we got I think we got enough there. Alright, Brian will tell the listeners how they can reach you if they'd like to reach out to you or maybe bar capital, what's the best what's the best avenue for that?

Unknown Speaker  31:30  
So a few things you can go to the website which is www dot made bar capital calm and a E ba our capital comm email is Brian at Nevar. Capital. com. Instagram is at B Heminger. And LinkedIn if you just put in Brian Heimerdinger I think I'm one of the only ones on there. You're gonna find me. Awesome.

Casey Brown  31:52  
Good deal. That's great, man. Well, listen. Thanks, Brian, for being with us today. Thank you all for listening to the cashflow pro podcast. And this is casey brown with 3000 capital. And we're so glad you chose to spend a little time with us and hey, it's just like it's it's just like Brian said, If hang on

it's just like Brian said, you know, get up do something, you know, you may not be doing right, but hey, get up and do something. So again, thank you for listening to the cashflow pro podcast. We hope everybody has a wonderful rest of your day. Thank you

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Maebar Capital